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[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Isn't that just a miscast and not a catastrophe?

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago

It’s a myth. No one who matters cares what color the actor’s skin is as long as they do good work portraying the character.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tell that to Ursula Le Guin when she saw all those white people in the Earthsea adaptations.

Note: There are few characters in the Earthsea books who are white precisely because most fantasy is white.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago

If you can’t tell the difference between random white people on the internet complaining about a film adaptation of the Odyssey and the author of Earthsea not liking the TV show they made about her books just because they’re both fictional narratives, you might be a bit out of your depth in attempting to critique Le Guin about anything.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I'm not. She's the best and I will defend her to my last breath.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Then I have misunderstood you entirely, and I apologize.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's partly on me. To be clear, I wanted to point out there are cases where it's a valid complaint, outside of the usual white genocide dipshits. The current "controversy" with Helen is not one of those cases

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

I might care if the character has a well-defined appearance in the source material and it's important to their character. That's not the case for The Odyssey of course, but there's a steelman version of the argument that has some merit.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I haven’t seen the newest version of this. Which character are they mad about this time around?

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

They're butthurt about Helen of Troy in the new Odyssey movie being a very attractive actress, but not white.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Okay that’s even funnier than I expected, thanks. It’s been awhile, but I don’t remember Helen’s paleness having any particular relevance to the plot.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She was so white her face could blind a thousand ships

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It’s a myth.

It's a myth of ancient Greece.

In my opinion the appearance of an actor may be irrelevant for the theatrical piece, but for cinema miscast will damage the overall image.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Bullshit. It’s a modern take on an ancient myth where half the characters are barely described physically. Nothing about people who never existed can be miscast by skin color, unless you’re going to try to tell me that this is meant to be a historical reenactment of, again, events that never happened.

I suppose Charybdis could be miscast if they used a kangaroo, but frankly I haven’t seen the movie and don’t know if that part is even depicted.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nothing about people who never existed can be miscast by skin color

You're ready to throw ethnological context out of the window?
It seems pretty important to the myth representation.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

If seeing a black person in a movie ruins the “myth representation” for you, maybe just skip going to see it. No one’s going to drag you to a theatre and strap you into a chair.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It would be strange to me to see a Caucasian person in a film adaptation of a myth of ancient China or of an African tribe as well.

[-] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago

Maybe skip those too, then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

There isn’t a shortage of movies. I’m willing to bet someone is out there pandering to your preference for historically accurate skin tone in fictional stories where it’s barely described and has no meaning in relation to the plot.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

skin tone

Oh come on!

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