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[–] 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (99 children)

Any good justification for this rule you can think of?

(Also… weird that you’re not actually enforcing it? Is it a “rule” or not?)

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  • [+] [M] -69 points 2 months ago (85 children)

    Basic humanity? Graham lacked it, doesn't mean we should.

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  • [–] 105 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (36 children)

    So if we celebrated hitler's death we lack humanity? People should be free to celebrate a death if they feel to. Forcing your idea of a moral code over people is not nice. We are not talking about celebrating violence, a crime or wishing for somebody's death.

    People should be free to express their feelings if they don't hurt anyone, without having to fear the morality police. The point of modorators should be to create a welcoming and safe space, not to impose your morality on others.

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  • [+] [M] -48 points 2 months ago (21 children)

    Doesn't matter if you think it's "nice" or not. It's a rule for this community.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Yes, and you could have answered "thanks for your input, but we are going to stick with our rules because we have our reasons", instead you basically tell me "Doesn't matter what you think, these are the rules and you must respect them. No discussion allowed". I mean sure, you make the rules, but the way you enforce them and react to criticism speaks for itself.

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  • [+] [M] -34 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I don't make the rules here, but I do enforce them.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You should answer the question posed though…

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    No, no, you don’t get it. It’s not about being nice, it’s about telegraphing what a good, nonthreatening supplicant you are

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  • [+] [M] -35 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I already said he was an asshole and cited the reason, that's not supplication.

    You don't have to celebrate death to prove you aren't a supplicant. 😉

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    You wrote the words “basic humanity” as if that was supposed to make sense as a justification for a rule. Don’t think we’ve seen a reason.

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  • [+] [M] -36 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Reason enough for people with basic human empathy.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I have empathy for the people whose lives were made miserable by republican policies graham championed and I celebrate one less champion of those policies fucking people over

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It might help you understand WHY you're getting ratioed if you understand this:

    Lindsay Graham was basically a serial killer who used votes rather than knives.

    Imagine a serial killer murdered someone you love. Wouldn't you cheer when you find out he's died? Wouldn't you be happy he is dead and no longer able to harm others the way he harmed your loved one?

    That's how we feel about Graham dying. That's what we're celebrating. Graham is the serial killer who murdered our mama, and we're happy to see him die.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Jesus fucking Christ. We’re really doing this high road virtue signaling bullshit here, too? Cool. Continue being part of the problem, I guess.

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  • [+] [M] -34 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    If you don't like it, make your own community. It's a stated rule here.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Is there a rule about talking about disliking it? I don’t see one in writing, but it seems like it wouldn’t matter.

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  • [+] [M] -8 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Nope, no rule against it so long as you continue being civil about it. Shading over into personal attacks would break rule 3.

    Some communities have a rule against meta commentary, which this would fall under, but we don't have that rule here.

    Which is weird because !world@lemmy.world DOES have that rule and both were set up by the same person. (Rule #6 in World)

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Cool, well, if it’s a real rule and not total nonsense you should probably get to work banning every single person in this comment section who is doing the thing you’re telling me isn’t allowed. Otherwise, I don’t know, it might be seen as obviously a bullshit rule used to selectively stop specific discussions.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    Not positive that you should be enforcing your own personal ethics onto other people. Free speech should be a thing. If a person did bad things and people are glad that he is no longer in a position to do bad things, that is a celebration in itself. Trying to enforce opinions like this is self-congratulatory in that you consider your opinion is superior and worthy of judicial enforcement.

    Note that I haven't in the slightest commented on the man himself, yet still run the risk of banning. It all depends upon the moderator. This happens on Reddit all the time and that's the problem with this kind of moderation. It has a chilling effect. Give a censor a job and they tend to censor.

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  • [+] [M] -9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Freedom of speech is what the government controls. You have no freedom of speech within a private entity like social media.

    The TOS sets the overall rules, each community further defines them.

    The Lemmy instances which are "do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" get de-federated pretty damn quickly due to the raw sewage they pump out.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Would you celebrate the death of Hitler?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago*

    Ok agreed. No surprise night raping or murdering people in colonial genocide projects that Graham Cracker. I hope we'll all live to celebrate that fucker dying some day too.

    Now on the celebrations.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    No. This high road bullshit is why we are in the hole we’re in now. You want to play the game, you need to understand the rules. And you naive to think anything else.

    I won’t condone murder, but this fucker deserves his abrupt death and the vitriol that follows. We will always be at the mercy of those fucks because of people like you and it’s time you understand.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Community rules are aggressively enforced against people the mods disagree with and fairly lax with those they agree. Jordan is usually pretty fair though. But yeah the celebrating death rule is applied very very inconsistently.

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  • [+] [M] -9 points 2 months ago

    Mostly because we physically can't read every comment and rely on reports.

    Events like this are fairly unique.

    So here's the situation:

    Last night? I didn't see anything removable or bannable and went to sleep.

    Waking up today, I had a butt-ton of replies to wade through, then reports, now I'm going through the whole comment tree looking for rule violations.

    So far, as of your comment, it looks pretty clean! I'm impressed!

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