I'll start: printers.

I bought an HP in March 2020 when my job went remote and HP bricked it remotely after only 100 pages because I wouldn't sign up for their subscription program. Ended up trashing a perfectly good printer.

Luckily my library's close by and I can print there remotely.

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[–] 39 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

Printers are a loss leader for selling ink cartridges. I have done my recent printing at Walgreens. It's about 25 cents per page and I don't need it very often.

Video games. I stopped buying games because they started requiring a monthly subscription to play.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Yea lately I've been playing a bunch of Quake and Doom mods/wads/paks. There are probably tens of thousands of hours worth of free content available for both of these games. Kinda makes it hard to justify buying a new game when I could go download some masterpiece Quake campaign for free.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    Printers are a loss leader for selling ink cartridges.

    Not quite


    a loss leader is also sold at loss, so similar pricing concept, but that's to get you in the store, where (statistically) people will buy more.

    What (many) inkjet printers do is the razor-and-blades model.

    The razor-and-blades business model[1] is a business model in which one article is sold at a low price or even given away in order to increase sales of a complementary good, such as consumable supplies. It is different from loss leader marketing and product sample marketing, which do not depend on complementary products or services. Common examples of the razor-and-blades model include inkjet printers whose ink cartridges are significantly marked up in price, coffee machines that use single-use coffee pods, electric toothbrushes, and video game consoles, which require additional purchases of accessories and software not included in the original package.[1]

    Laser printers tend to be less prone to this. You can also get inkjet printers that aren't using locked-down cartridges, will take tanks of ink and don't try to keep out competing ink vendors


    but keep in mind that while the ink will cost less, the base printer will also cost more than the razor-and-blades model printers. Canon's "MegaTank" line is one such example.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Monthly subscription? You mean like PS+ or something?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yes, also World of Warcraft, anything like that with a subscription. PS+/Xbox Game Pass was the death blow for console gaming for me. I want to buy the game, play the game. Not be paying each month.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, MMOs are a special case. Realistically WoW or XIV are a better deal than most games. I'm probably in the tens of thousands of hours in WoW since 2004. Pretty crazy value for money.

    I agree paying for online in consoles is dumb but that's always been their strategy - cheaper and easier to get into than computers and they'll nickel and dime you since you don't know any better.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If you're a daily player, sure. But I'm the kind of person who can play every day for maybe a week, but then I'll take a month or four off before I pick it up again. The monthly billing system does not align with how I like to play games.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You can just... cancel the sub...

    I'll take years off between playing for a couple months here or there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    My complaint: I don't want to pay every month

    Your solution: Play for only 1 month

    Problem not solved. I'd much rather buy a game where I get to play as long as I want.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Idk man you're making it out to be a lot bigger problem than it is. There isn't a single "buy once" game out there that is even remotely close to beating WoW or even XIV in terms of playtime or playtime:cost. As long as you're having fun playing them and have stuff that you want to do in them, they are essentially an unbeatable value.

    Even terraria and FNV don't come anywhere close to matching the playtime I have in those MMOs, although terraria is so cheap that it probably beats everything on cost value.

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