โฒ 130 โผ The Commission is planning a new data-retention law that would force online services to retain user metadata: who you are, your location, who you interact with, when, what device, etc. (www.europarl.europa.eu) submitted 1 month ago by CAVOK@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.org 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[โ] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 38 points 1 month ago (2 children) Why are so many places trying to speedrun society into totalitarian shitholes? <--Rhetorical permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because the politicians who propose or vote for unethical laws don't face any repercussion - so far. I wonder whether they've heard of guillotines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I mean, if you can't get people to just vote them out, ultraviolence isn't really on the table either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) For voting you need a majority to succeed. For operating a guillotine not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Well then, why don't you get on that? We both know the answer, and it's that pulling the cord isn't the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent [โ] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Rhetorical Is it? We don't know the real motivation which makes it difficult to convince the politicians to not do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Greed for power, money and control is the real motivation as far as I can tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] plyth@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) This lockdown won't create a creative society and thus won't create prosperity. I think everybody here knows. Are we governed by stupid people? The money and power will be gone. It's like turning into communist eastern Europe. If they are stupid, how can they stay on top? To me, it looks more like them being intelligent and paid off. But what's the goal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Short term profit and corruption. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) Because the politicians who propose or vote for unethical laws don't face any repercussion - so far. I wonder whether they've heard of guillotines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I mean, if you can't get people to just vote them out, ultraviolence isn't really on the table either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) For voting you need a majority to succeed. For operating a guillotine not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Well then, why don't you get on that? We both know the answer, and it's that pulling the cord isn't the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) I mean, if you can't get people to just vote them out, ultraviolence isn't really on the table either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) For voting you need a majority to succeed. For operating a guillotine not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Well then, why don't you get on that? We both know the answer, and it's that pulling the cord isn't the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) For voting you need a majority to succeed. For operating a guillotine not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Well then, why don't you get on that? We both know the answer, and it's that pulling the cord isn't the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Well then, why don't you get on that? We both know the answer, and it's that pulling the cord isn't the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Maybe I'm just not desperate enough (yet?). I wouldn't imply that for all other people though. And of course the guillotine is a figure of speech; other measures that lead to the same end may be taken. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago Of course it is. But this applies to any other variation of wanning a revolution. If you actually get involved in politics, it becomes clear pretty quickly that people DGAF about it. Even the 45% or so that say they do. How to use your mass public support to achieve political change was never the question, it was always "what public support". permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Rhetorical Is it? We don't know the real motivation which makes it difficult to convince the politicians to not do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Greed for power, money and control is the real motivation as far as I can tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] plyth@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) This lockdown won't create a creative society and thus won't create prosperity. I think everybody here knows. Are we governed by stupid people? The money and power will be gone. It's like turning into communist eastern Europe. If they are stupid, how can they stay on top? To me, it looks more like them being intelligent and paid off. But what's the goal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Short term profit and corruption. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Greed for power, money and control is the real motivation as far as I can tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] plyth@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) This lockdown won't create a creative society and thus won't create prosperity. I think everybody here knows. Are we governed by stupid people? The money and power will be gone. It's like turning into communist eastern Europe. If they are stupid, how can they stay on top? To me, it looks more like them being intelligent and paid off. But what's the goal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Short term profit and corruption. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] plyth@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) This lockdown won't create a creative society and thus won't create prosperity. I think everybody here knows. Are we governed by stupid people? The money and power will be gone. It's like turning into communist eastern Europe. If they are stupid, how can they stay on top? To me, it looks more like them being intelligent and paid off. But what's the goal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Short term profit and corruption. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Short term profit and corruption. permalink fedilink source parent