▲ 958 ▼ Copper (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 96 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/historymemes/p/1836852/copper
[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) How long a copper block do I need to prevent any throttle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (4 children) Good question. I had to modify my code to run more efficiently, since not throttling implies that the copper block reaches a steady state with very little temperature changes over time. But, with the changes, I can say that there is no copper block length that would prevent throttling with a 120 W CPU. It seems the heat transfer within the block is slow enough over such long lengths that you get diminishing returns with longer and longer copper blocks. Here's a graph I made summarizing the different block lengths that I tested With a 65 W CPU, a 32 cm (double the original length) copper block is sufficient to prevent throttling, but it'll reach steady state at 97 C permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Have you considered the possibility that Ea-nāṣir might have been delivering inferior quality copper to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Ea-nasir promised that these were good quality copper, and I do not have any reason to suspect otherwise. But I'll have you know, if the copper is of inferior quality, I will make sure to send my messenger to complain. He will not hear the end of it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would the result change if the copper block gets wider instead of higher? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Apparently, yes. You can prevent thermal throttling if you expanded the base from 4 cm x 4 cm to 4.5 cm x 4.5 cm, and if you increased the height from 16 cm to 100 cm. The temperature caps at around 97 C. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (4 children) Good question. I had to modify my code to run more efficiently, since not throttling implies that the copper block reaches a steady state with very little temperature changes over time. But, with the changes, I can say that there is no copper block length that would prevent throttling with a 120 W CPU. It seems the heat transfer within the block is slow enough over such long lengths that you get diminishing returns with longer and longer copper blocks. Here's a graph I made summarizing the different block lengths that I tested With a 65 W CPU, a 32 cm (double the original length) copper block is sufficient to prevent throttling, but it'll reach steady state at 97 C permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Have you considered the possibility that Ea-nāṣir might have been delivering inferior quality copper to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Ea-nasir promised that these were good quality copper, and I do not have any reason to suspect otherwise. But I'll have you know, if the copper is of inferior quality, I will make sure to send my messenger to complain. He will not hear the end of it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would the result change if the copper block gets wider instead of higher? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Apparently, yes. You can prevent thermal throttling if you expanded the base from 4 cm x 4 cm to 4.5 cm x 4.5 cm, and if you increased the height from 16 cm to 100 cm. The temperature caps at around 97 C. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 child) Have you considered the possibility that Ea-nāṣir might have been delivering inferior quality copper to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Ea-nasir promised that these were good quality copper, and I do not have any reason to suspect otherwise. But I'll have you know, if the copper is of inferior quality, I will make sure to send my messenger to complain. He will not hear the end of it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago Ea-nasir promised that these were good quality copper, and I do not have any reason to suspect otherwise. But I'll have you know, if the copper is of inferior quality, I will make sure to send my messenger to complain. He will not hear the end of it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Would the result change if the copper block gets wider instead of higher? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Apparently, yes. You can prevent thermal throttling if you expanded the base from 4 cm x 4 cm to 4.5 cm x 4.5 cm, and if you increased the height from 16 cm to 100 cm. The temperature caps at around 97 C. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago Apparently, yes. You can prevent thermal throttling if you expanded the base from 4 cm x 4 cm to 4.5 cm x 4.5 cm, and if you increased the height from 16 cm to 100 cm. The temperature caps at around 97 C. permalink fedilink source parent