Flight instructor: "Do your best, lol."

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[–] 107 points 3 months ago (33 children)

I will never understand why people do things like this. You want to end your life? Cool. Why do you feel this need to traumatize and/or murder others in the process?

Also really, really wish we as a species took mental health more seriously.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Maybe the idea was that he could end his life, without risking crashing the plane? Why he chose this method specifically will, unfortunately, never be answered.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yup, no way to know. Maybe he had a psychotic break in that moment and didn't ever expect to do it. I just have a concentrated hatred for people who do these things and take innocent people with them.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago

    I imagine it’s more like an intrusive thought when he was vulnerable. He was likely having a bad time, feeling desperate and suicidal with no help. Then the thought came that he could just open the door, so he did. No planning, no consideration, no real thought once triggered. Other people just weren’t relevant

    Arguably if you have the wherewithal to consider other people, there’s at least a sliver of something to live for

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    And furthermore, this makes the other person a suspect in your death. Just a super shitty way to do it all around.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    A lot of people include "I don't give a shit about anyone else" in their "I don't give a shit [about myself]" suicidal thoughts.

    - Ex-cop, dealt with lots of suicide-by-cop attempts and investigated a lot of suicides

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    When you get into that head space, you don't care about anything at all. The worst postpartum depression I had even made me stop caring about my kids. Then you dissociate and there's very little of what makes you, you, left. When I think back on it it's like I was trapped in my mind and someone else took over.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    If you think that's even a glimmer of a concern in the mind of a suicidal person, I urge you to think further about it. If anything, this man knew he wasn't condemning the student as well.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    As a country. Metal health in America is bullshit. Other countries take it way more seriously.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    The story says this happened in Argentina.

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  • [+] -15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

    Yes, I was specifically talking about America. I don't know how mental health is in Argentina.

    Edit: Not entirely sure why I'm being downvoted here. Why would I talk about mental health care in Argentina? I've never sent foot into the country and the only thing I know about it is that the city of Buenos Aires is in it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    You're probably being dogpiled for perceived Ameri-centrism.

    The irony, in my mind, is that while you were kinda veering the discussion in a different direction, per your edit you explicitly did so because you have no knowledge of mental healthcare in Argentina which is very much not Ameri-centrism.

    If I had to put words to most of the downvotes, they would probably say "fuck you, this is a discussion about Argentina's mental healthcare, not mental healthcare more broadly," which again in a bit of irony, detracts from the discussion of how to address mental health crises.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I think it's just annoyance at the idiomatic use of "America" when the discussion is about the Americas.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Huh, never considered that.

    It's hard to get into the minds of a sea of semi-anonymous voters to determine their motivations. I'm sure they all had their own reasons, and yours may be one of them.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    The minds of the sea of semi-anonymous lemmings is likely hard to understand due to endemic parochialism in the USA.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think that's part of why I can't read anyone's mind, but okay.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well it's a fairly common discussion on Lemmy, Reddit, microblogging, etc., that "America" as the USA doesn't float well outside of the USA.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Some corners of Lemmy that I haven't seen maybe, but over my decade+ of Reddit I've never seen anyone present that as an issue.

    I acknowledge it's a bit lame that only a specific part of North America calls themselves "American," but I doubt inaccurate and exclusionary endonyms are a phenomenon unique to the US.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Ah, the double-down. Interesting gambit

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Doubling down on what? Do you know what "doubling down" actually means?

    The comment I replied to was talking about humanity as a species. I responded by narrowing the discussion to individual countries because mental health care varies dramatically from one country to another. Some countries have excellent mental health systems; others don't. The United States, in my view, has a particularly poor one.

    The fact that the original incident occurred in Argentina is irrelevant to the point I was making.

    More importantly, I can only speak from my own experience. I've lived in the United States for the overwhelming majority of my life, so that's the system I know. Why would I pretend to speak authoritatively about countries I've never lived in?

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