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[–] 3 points 2 months ago (59 children)

Okay, you win, I guess I'm not woke.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago* (58 children)

    "trees are living beings and a common human good, life on Earth depends on their existence"

    Is it that radical?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (57 children)

    Yes. Trees, like all plants, exist primarily to make human life easier and in that goal are required to die and their corpse be used for a variety of needs; some quite ephemeral, some quite permanent.

    Without wood access, assuming you are correctly against plastics, you're essentially advocating for a world where poor people don't get furniture, barbecue is tasteless, and wildfires are common place.

    Edit: I genuinely didn't expect liberals to take issue with this. It's wild how right-wing beliefs like humans being smol inconsequential beans have spread in that community.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    Wow, did you not read the things you were typing while you were typing them..?

    I thought the idea that the world was made by god to serve humans was known to not exactly be a fact, but apparently some people believe it still.

    By the way, yes, quite obviously you are not "woke".

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (8 children)

    No one brought up God. Just not using your woo-woo 'oh the earth and the trees are living beings and we're all one' nonsense that helps no one.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Trees don't exist "for" us. Animals don't exist "for" us. We are a cosmic accident. The fact that they make our lives easier in a great variety of ways is incidental.

    Trees, like all plants, exist as a similar cosmic accident and their "purpose" is to continue their spread and growth.

    I'm not going to stop using wood any time soon, but the way you're trying to paint humans as like, the one true species or some shit, is fucking gross

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (29 children)

    Wow, human exceptionalism is fucking gross.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (28 children)

    Sorry you're a traitor to your species.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    the earth gave us a place to hold life. Not a traitor to my species, just humble enough to understand we are at the mercy of nature.

    For example, without the trees we'd not have anything to burn when we found fire. Nor wood houses, nor yes, our furniture. But also no shade to keep us from the sun, no place for the birds and squirrels to nest. Trees give life for many outside our species too. In nature, all is connected.

    It's graditute, respect, and understanding.

    Ill edit this if I can find a link, but a national forest removed the wolves from its park. A time later, the trees started dying. Sceince found (and i forget so imma look it up,) somehow the missing wolves lead to the dead trees, so they reintroduced the wolves. I believe deer pop exploded and were eating the trees dead.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    youre a capitalist. All these points you make align with capitalism.

    good work.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Trees exist for trees. Their purpose is to make more trees. Humans are not a consideration.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    Their purpose is whatever purpose we have for them. We could eliminate them at any time on a whim.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    That is an incredibly colonialist capitalist attitude and it's exactly what got us into this ecological crisis.

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