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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

It's not about just giving women more money to have children, it's investing money to create a society that is more conducive to having children. My main point is that whatever they spend to increase fertility, it wasn't enough.

The counter argument to increase spending is just to increase immigration and not increasing spending. At least outside japan lol.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I honestly don’t think there’s any amount of money, given to women or invested into society, that is going to significantly change women to want as many kids as they were forced to have in the past. Not without taking away reproductive rights and lemme tell you, they are trying really really hard to do exactly that in many places right now.

Immigration is a real solution to some of this. But it’s so much easier to hate immigrants and subjugate women, amiright?

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, hate is shockingly easy to sell. And cheap to manufacture. Late stage capitalism.

Just to be clear, I'm not even arguing that we "need" to have more children, or that we need immigration. We need degrowth of GDP instead. We should reduce population density in e.g. Europe. Increase urban density in the US. We can also economically degrow and drastically reduce energy and resource use while at the same time increasing standards of living for everyone.

All that are reasons that would influence wanting to have children too. Maybe it's not as simple as I make it out to be, but I believe fundamentally it's not an issue. If we actually thought "we'll need to have more babies or humanity will be in trouble" some extraordinary heroic women would step up lol. But that's the last thing we need right now.

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