▲ 353 ▼ World Cup tourists aren’t leaving tips — and restaurants are fighting back (nypost.com) submitted 2 months ago by stumu415@lemmy.zip to c/world@lemmy.world 627 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world -12 points 2 months ago (3 children) Accelerating your fellow workers deeper into poverty isn't the way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 child) But paying your fellow workers wages, because their boss wouldn't is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) You say that like the prices wouldn't just increase by 15 to 20% if tipping wages became illegal. Because that's what they're doing. All you're doing if you refuse to tip is taking money out of a fellow working class person's pocket. https://epionline.org/oped/is-it-time-to-end-tipping-no-servers-will-lose-money-and-service-will-suffer/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) But subsidizing their abusive employer is, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wage theft is the largest type of crime in the US. A huge amount of employers are abusive, not all of them have workers at tipping wages. Maybe instead of taking money out of another working-class person's pocket, we need to actually have some class solidarity. If you don't want a tip, don't eat there. But eating in a place like that and refusing to tip is just hurting other working people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago Ah yes, by buying my dinner with my money I, not their fucking boss, am taking money out of their pockets. You see, this is the problem. You think solidarity is just a ticket to unbounded gains, so you encourage a pattern of behaviours that only contribute to the downward spiral. You're not ready for solidarity, yet. You need to start with trust. If you don't think your clients should be able to expect you to set prices that cover the cost of the exchanged goods and services, that they should instead guilt splurge so that your notoriously wage stealing boss, then you aren't in a position to be serious about contributing to a movement of solidarity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) You've wandered into the only group of liberals that doesn't have any functional empathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago These people think the prices would just stay the same if tipping wages were banned and it's absurd. No class solidarity at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 child) But paying your fellow workers wages, because their boss wouldn't is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) You say that like the prices wouldn't just increase by 15 to 20% if tipping wages became illegal. Because that's what they're doing. All you're doing if you refuse to tip is taking money out of a fellow working class person's pocket. https://epionline.org/oped/is-it-time-to-end-tipping-no-servers-will-lose-money-and-service-will-suffer/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) You say that like the prices wouldn't just increase by 15 to 20% if tipping wages became illegal. Because that's what they're doing. All you're doing if you refuse to tip is taking money out of a fellow working class person's pocket. https://epionline.org/oped/is-it-time-to-end-tipping-no-servers-will-lose-money-and-service-will-suffer/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) But subsidizing their abusive employer is, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wage theft is the largest type of crime in the US. A huge amount of employers are abusive, not all of them have workers at tipping wages. Maybe instead of taking money out of another working-class person's pocket, we need to actually have some class solidarity. If you don't want a tip, don't eat there. But eating in a place like that and refusing to tip is just hurting other working people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago Ah yes, by buying my dinner with my money I, not their fucking boss, am taking money out of their pockets. You see, this is the problem. You think solidarity is just a ticket to unbounded gains, so you encourage a pattern of behaviours that only contribute to the downward spiral. You're not ready for solidarity, yet. You need to start with trust. If you don't think your clients should be able to expect you to set prices that cover the cost of the exchanged goods and services, that they should instead guilt splurge so that your notoriously wage stealing boss, then you aren't in a position to be serious about contributing to a movement of solidarity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wage theft is the largest type of crime in the US. A huge amount of employers are abusive, not all of them have workers at tipping wages. Maybe instead of taking money out of another working-class person's pocket, we need to actually have some class solidarity. If you don't want a tip, don't eat there. But eating in a place like that and refusing to tip is just hurting other working people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago Ah yes, by buying my dinner with my money I, not their fucking boss, am taking money out of their pockets. You see, this is the problem. You think solidarity is just a ticket to unbounded gains, so you encourage a pattern of behaviours that only contribute to the downward spiral. You're not ready for solidarity, yet. You need to start with trust. If you don't think your clients should be able to expect you to set prices that cover the cost of the exchanged goods and services, that they should instead guilt splurge so that your notoriously wage stealing boss, then you aren't in a position to be serious about contributing to a movement of solidarity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago Ah yes, by buying my dinner with my money I, not their fucking boss, am taking money out of their pockets. You see, this is the problem. You think solidarity is just a ticket to unbounded gains, so you encourage a pattern of behaviours that only contribute to the downward spiral. You're not ready for solidarity, yet. You need to start with trust. If you don't think your clients should be able to expect you to set prices that cover the cost of the exchanged goods and services, that they should instead guilt splurge so that your notoriously wage stealing boss, then you aren't in a position to be serious about contributing to a movement of solidarity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child) You've wandered into the only group of liberals that doesn't have any functional empathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago These people think the prices would just stay the same if tipping wages were banned and it's absurd. No class solidarity at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheAlbacor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago These people think the prices would just stay the same if tipping wages were banned and it's absurd. No class solidarity at all. permalink fedilink source parent