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[–] 68 points 4 months ago* (17 children)

Tipping does not lead to better service. Arguably worse, They want you out asap to get the next tipper in the seat.

Also, can't see why someone should pay a waiter more for bringing 5 steaks an 5 champagnes instead of 5 burgers and 5 soda's. Kind of the same job and effort.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I remember when I spent time in the US, tipping was the absolute worst part of the experience.

    If I was with a big group going to a restaurant we would have a server constantly checking in with us, chatting and telling stories, getting us deals and freebies. When I would go out alone I would get ignored. If I dressed down I would be treated worse than if I was dressed up. One time I even waited an hour for a table before walking out as larger groups got seated ahead of me. How people are treated is based on how much money they think you'll hand over.

    Everything about tipping is greed and it's gross.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    And then there’s also the fact that people that work less busy times or times where the people visiting the restaurant are less wealthy earn less per hour than their counter parts

    Or how men or people of colour also earn less in tips.

    Or how many times they aren’t even shared with back of the house staff.

    It’s just a stupid system overall

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  • [+] -38 points 4 months ago* (14 children)

    Tipping does not lead to better service.

    Spoken like someone who's never experienced a French waiter.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    French waiters are honest, which I prefer.

    Some of the best service I received was in Hong Kong, it was efficient and moderately rude

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago

    Maybe better is not the right term but tipping definitely results in politer and usually faster service, there is no point in pretending it doesn't have an impact.

    And I'm against tipping culture, I'm just not in denial that it has an impact.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You people are so obsessed with attention and false happiness. The server doesn't care about you they have to beg and grind to get to minimum wage. It's one step above indentured servitude.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Lol, you don't know shit about me.

    I definitely think we should pay a living wage to everyone and I'm working to pass that in my city & county, but that's doesn't mean I'm in denial about the faux friendliness that results from tipping culture or that the staff are more attentive (it's much less common for staff to ask if you want more drinks without you having to get their attention in countries without tips than those with)

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In the US I hated how the waiters were always bothering me with fake smiles "everything ok sir? do you need something?" while I've got my mouth full of food and no interest in conversation. I'll call if I need something, thank you.

    I like living in a society of peers, I don't need to feel "served".

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    You're showing your usian bias, of course its less likely that a server elsewhere in the world is going to interrupt your meal. That doesn't mean they won't be available when you need them. The rest of the world doesn't expect or what someone interrupting their experience every 5 minutes, but we know we can signal them when we need something.

    It sounds like you want to improve the working day for your own people, but you need to recognise that what you are aiming for is already well below the standard.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Do you tip before you get your meal? If not then they are just working to get you through faster, because a standard 15% every 30 min is better than hoping for 20% for a longer customer.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    There are plenty of ways to get faster table turn that don't involve rushing your customers, like making sure the food is prepared quickly and accurately, or taking payment earlier so that customers can leave whenever they would like.

    Obviously, yes, more tips makes more money than less-but-slightly higher tips, but a good server will manage to achieve both high quality and efficient service.

    But yeah, everyone needs to make a livable wage, and tipping culture only helps the owning class.

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