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I'm talking about this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sirma.mobile.bible.android

You can always criticize lovingly, be disappointed, or even (temporarily )angry, i don't see why hate would ever be necessary/useful to change the other one. I may be wrong but just don't see it.

Can we dislike others while loving them ? I don't think so, not without recognising that they have many good sides worthy of our love/protection, and not while misrepresenting them as evil/bad by focusing only on what we perceive as flaws.
You don't help your enemies improve by correcting mistakes they made, but we'll warn those we love since we care about them. And again we should love everyone if we believe in a christian City of God.

Interesting to add, perhaps : https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/true-spirituality-confronts-the-abuses, it's an impression i got when reading parts of the Philokalia : these monks want to feel God by denuding themselves from their thoughts, but should they not dedicate their lives to make the kingdom/city of God descend upon our Earth instead, what 'does the most good'/'serves God&humans the best' ? At least they're abstaining from evil, which is already remarkable enough, (inter)acting is always a risk.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, it didn't show in the thumbnail.

There were two He said summed the whole law. I'll leave it there since anything else I say may upset milkfed.

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I stumbled upon this video yesterday, and there are so many proofs that christianity is rational, yet some muslims seem to misrepresent what son of God means, and apparently some christians as well : John 1:12 « But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, »
Just a note 🤷 , thanks for your comment :)

(see also, among others, the Church oscillate between calling every being H··er·is children, and reserving such absolute for the Christ, perhaps distinguishing between a child and a worthy perfect Child)

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

You are welcome. We are all sons and daughters of the Most High. We have all fallen short of the glory, and all our "righteousness" is filthy rags. And yet we are all worthy. The Kingdom is within.

Also I study kabbalah (both versions), and all manners of religions. They all say the same things in different ways. It's the institutions that are deceivers and lead us astray, by being in line with political and selfish agendas. Greater is s/he who is in me, than he who is [rooted firmly in] the world[ly] things.

Anyway all that to say all these "law" givers would call me heretic. Ha-Satan will appear as an angel of light, being the accuser. But people within these institutions are often very sincere. It's the Catholic Church, nonetheless, that first introduced me to a loving G-d.

I'm sorry if this post upsets you. Mods feel free to remove it. I wish everyone peace that surpasses understanding, and life more abundant.

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 month ago

I wanted to come back to this and add a caution: every online Bible site I've found are literally rewriting the Bible.

Possibly online versions of the Tanakah as well, I haven't investigated that yet.

I am not seeing that that this is to correct mistranslation, but to slowly make it align to their current false doctrine! I can see the difference in several translations I have had since childhood, and a couple passed on from my ancestors! The Bible itself strongly warns about adding to and subtraction from the Word, and already the Councils of Nicea left out a lot of texts, protestants even more. The Ethiopian Bible included more, but even more are missing!

Also wrt my earlier comment, see also:

https://www.thehiddenorchard.com/peshat-pardes/

Babylonian word for Garden, hence "Paradise"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+3%3A1-3&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A9-16&version=KJV

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you want an answer : the Church herself would recommend you to read the canonical Gospels in greek and the Septuagint, which is what she encourages her students and most serious scholars to do.
As long as they don't change these original scriptures i do not care much about modern translations, which seem to me even better than the King James Version anyway(, the KJV wasn't based on the original texts b.t.w., but on the Textus Receptus).

I'm always down for defending the old&current Church, and underlining the tragedy for us that her territory has been reduced to almost nothing, that's how we rewarded her for everything she did for us, ok... She'll continue to help us however she can and we'll continue to believe her outdated, ignorant that we wouldn't be there without her, and i.m.o. we'll continue to regress faster and faster by continuing to reject her.
At least the Church has a vision for a future ideal society, we do not even have such basic planning(, or if we have, then i don't see our citizens able to describe what we're aiming for in the long term).

As an example of her beneficial influence, the closest truly democratic examples, as in ancient Greece, were Florence, Venise and the Republic of the Escartons, all much closer to the papal states than the rest of Europe.
It's the Church that united Europe, launched the Pax Dei, encouraged us to turn towards arts and sciences(, contrary to the anti-religious propaganda that'd like to tell you that Galileo was tortured to death for saying that the Earth is round or sthg, it was actually the Pope that financed his researchs and many more), the Church was at the origin of most universities for instance, where it encouraged rational justifications of religion(, and didn't have much difficulties in finding them depending on the topic).
It was their monks and priests who cared for the last among us, until the state took back that duty a few centuries ago.
They were also our scholars, sometimes dedicating their entire lives to preserve old books that would have been lost otherwise.
Her canon laws had a strong influence over medieval laws, and aimed to make even the powerful accountable(, e.g. excommunicating even kings), which helped in stating that no-one is above the law.
We can always find faults in a 2000-year long history, but i just wanted to point out that she was the backbone of Europe that made everything possible, because God may have found less causes of displeasure than usual perhaps. And here we are now, despite all of our techno-scientific discoveries, lowered to the point of not realizing how inferior we've become to past aristocrats(, when i'm saying that they obviously had better souls in regard to the writings/thoughts of anyone among them, i'm answered that we have developed over time better laws and broader rights, which is not the same thing).

(getting rid of the need for armies and the risk of aggression would mean getting rid of the most important problem with switching from a nation to a confederation of city-states, so i'm saying that i'd believe in a christian city-state for more than a few reasons, it'd be among my criteria)

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