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[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure the meme is expressing that most US citizens would have preferred spending money on fixing our own problems instead of bombing innocents.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago

This meme expresses what reasonably educated U.S. citizens think. And it’s not even the irrational MAGA cult, which has no foothold in the Fediverse. These are U.S. citizens expressing their opinions on this platform. And their opinion is that the heinous war crimes committed by their governments don’t matter—only their own well-being does.

If these are supposed to be the critical-thinking U.S. citizens, it’s very easy for me to understand how it’s possible that a serious criminal and obvious pedophile can be their president.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

And their opinion is that the heinous war crimes committed by their governments don’t matter—only their own well-being does.

Yeah, we never ever see any US citizens decrying their governments actions here. Never. Nope. No one speaks up at all, you're right.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Who says they are asserting they don't matter?

There are so many wrong things to talk about all at once. A throwaway meme pic is going to touch one point, not be a comprehensive dissertation on the entirety of the situation. There are tons of other memes addressing other facets.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

The U.S. started this war, committed the most egregious war crimes in the process, and threw the entire world into turmoil by blocking one of the most important trade routes in violation of international law.

And then U.S. citizens still complain that the pedophile mafia boss they themselves elected is costing them money.

I find that despicable.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

In a war where innocent children were killed, you complain about trade routes?

You are actually of course right to also complain about the trade routes as well as the atrocities, but by your logic, you should only be complaining about the worst thing and nothing else.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

They’re complaining that they aren’t being taken care of in favor of starting wars.

You’re complaining even when US citizens express disgust at what their government is doing.

It’s clear you just hate the US, which is understandable, but attacking individual citizens in comment sections isn’t doing what you think it is.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe you should leave this card to the people who, unfortunately, have to put up with your dull argument. As a European, it doesn't really affect me all too much, but it certainly affects millions of other people.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

As if your constant "US and US citizens are all evil" card isn't dull af at this point either.

We get it. A meme expressing that US citizens would rather NOT be in this war or killing innocents probably isn't the place for it.

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 2 days ago

THEN FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ???????!!!!!! Why do you think we are pissed off at you ? You Americans have the biggest mouth abouth freedom and virtue signaling. You have one 400M guns in your country yet all you guys do is go for a walk to protest and keyboard warrior behind your screens. When you collectively decide to "fight back" you do it legally when your government spends it time doing illegal things at home and abroad.

Even worse now a b-52 crashes which is big news for US outside the US and all Americans can do is downvote our celebrities. That is some nerve there.

Americans don't have enough to lose yet it seems and everyday you decide not to go to the capitol and mag dump the white circus and it's occupants the same way they do on poor people (I was going to say black but I saw a good number being white get mag dumped by your untrained police) makes the average American citizen a more valid target.

Stop complaining for god's sake arm yourselves you have the opportunity.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When you collectively decide to “fight back” you do it legally when your government spends it time doing illegal things at home and abroad.

Say that to Renee Price or Alex Pretti.

Say that to the "members of Antifa" that got arrested today.

Things are happening here and, again, a meme that is explicitly expressing disgust at this unfounded war isn't the place to yell about US citizens not saying shit.

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -1 points 2 days ago

I'm saying that you shouldn't be saying shit. I'm saying YOU SHOULD BE SHOOTING SHIT. Renee and Alex were not even shooting shit and got gunned down like animals. It's BEYOND time to arms yourselves with your 400M guns and gun the government down like animals.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Saying shit and doing shit aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm seeing a lot of saying not much of doing. Come on guys get on with.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah yelling at individual people on internet forums will really seal the deal. Do you feel better after yelling at least?

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -1 points 2 days ago

You know who is absolutely thrilled about these arguments ? China and Tankies.

Listen you need to understand one thing our anger and frustration is 1000% justified. We cannot change your government only you can. I fully understand these arguments are counter productive. But at the end of the day if our government are ever to face eachother because of who is in charge in the US then I will not hesitate to shoot because at the end of the day it's you or me.

You have the cards and tools in your hands. We don't. I will consider the relationship fully ended with the US and will cut off contacts with American friends regardless of how they voted in the midterms If the pedophile in Charge doesn't face a wave of backlash in the ballot.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do you have a fucking clue how monumentally stupid it sounds to threaten random strangers with cutting off contact with your American friends, in a forum full of people who hate and voted against trump, because you want us to violently attack our government? It goes without saying we would be slaughtered without even the slightest of ability to defend ourself against the world's largest and most armed military by an enormous margin. Not to mention that the troglodytes who have most of these guns you're so aroused by are rapid trump supporters.

Please do not reproduce and just to be safe, don't speak to anyone again. This level of stupid is destructive just by its existence. I am now dumber that I read your comments.

[-] munkee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

I just wanted to thank you for telling me what I think, I thought I thought differently but now I know.

this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2026
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