https://knockout.chat/thread/84117
Imagine having to pay respect to troops who sign up to kill people in the global south to plunder their resources.
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What kind of answer is this??
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"MILITARY IMPERIALISM DISCOURSE" LMAO WHAT
"the way people have discussed poor people here is deeply infantalizing. not everyone understands imperialism, but everyone knows the military's direct function: murder. >"
Well hold on, as a poor, I'd like to speak for myself and my experiences:
I hate to tell this person that a lot of these people who join are just out of high school or finishing up high school. A lot of them pick jobs where they don't kill, don't think they will kill or if they do they have a very childish conception of what it and why they're doing it. They are fucking stupid. How do I know this?
I HAVE BEEN AROUND THEM. THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID. I was in the military, my job was infact non-violent, not even the supply/logistics/admin side, basically as uninvolved as you can get. Ontop of that, I was a shitbag, usually made things worse/harder for everyone around me and I refused to do most things. I have been UCMJ'd.
I joined for money and I left as soon as I could. Speaking from first hand experience, the FOXnews-NYT propaganda split does work, which is why they do it, and if you don't know much about the world, you can fall for it or atleast buy enough of the lies to stay closer to the "jobs" side of things opposed to the war criminal side of things.
What's more shocking to me and probably other lefties, is the amount of people who try to join and can't because they
Poor education, flat out stupid. The imperial core refuses to water it's plants and then reaps unuseable harvest for war.
Too unhealthy. Imperial Core poisons it's plants flat out. Shit food, lack of food prep training, no physical fitness, no third spaces, no walkable cities.
Criminal records. They can't get a job anywhere, and the military is not an exception. The US again puts them in socioeconomic conditions where they're more likely to commit crimes. Additionally, compounding trauma from growing up in the broken US, poor, around drugs, struggling to survive makes people do weird things.
I've met people trying to join who can't read at all completely illiterate, people who do join with illegal immigrant family (surely they understand the situation?) And all sorts of contradictory people who "should" know better.
All this to say is that, it's annoying lefties really don't know anything about military or being in it yet they speak from a place of authority on it. For example, the purity politics is nonsense because if you were to look at people who tried to join and couldn't for one reason or another, it doesn't actually shade the perspective you're trying to tell. Poor people aren't a fantasy monolith who understand the plight of the working class, no ironically, theyve been fucked so hard they cant even participate in the war machine. Pretending that they are and not seeing it for what it is is actually alienating, that's dehumanizing. You don't know any of these people yet you're ready to invalidate them.
Yes- fuck those troops who the fuck cares- they died doing something genuinely bad, but it's genuinely annoying to me when rich white college kid who has parents pay for everything gets to come to the right conclusion in the easiest way possible, no real life experience informing it, and then try to talk keyword: DEFINITIVELY on shit they don't really know.