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submitted 1 month ago by kleeon@hexbear.net to c/libre@hexbear.net

Nearly 2000 packages affected now.

I'm starting to become sceptical of pacakge managers as a concept.

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[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

The alternative is the classic .exe fiasco that exists on Windows, with manual updating off sketchy sites.

[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the alternative is flathub smuglord

just kill internet access with flatseal to any apps that dont need it, done

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Flatpak next is going to have even more fine grained network sandboxing (per-app DNS, VPN portal, apps can't talk to each other in the same network).

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

But then we have to deal with permissions?!?! And the bloat! Oh god, the bloat! oooaaaaaaauhhh

[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

price to pay to not have some 1337t dprk haxor in your computer

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Every developer targeting Windows learning that having a self-update mechanism in your app is required because A: users don't update when prompted and B: getting onto the Microsoft Store is a PITA.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Honestly most software shouldn't require regular updates to begin with.

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

How else do you handle security vulnerabilities and bugs?

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Just make better software to start with. Adding networking and software deployment to everything is a significant attack surface.

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Updating software doesnt require networking or software deployment.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

having a self-update mechanism in your app

does

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Your comment was definitely a broader scope than the rest of the conversation. Most software isnt self-updating.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I haven't dealt with package management on Windows through exes because that sounds like a nightmare.

If you look at the Python PEP history, there's like 10 just for Windows installer bullshit and like every other month there's some IT guy coming in and screaming about how they want the installer to be a specific way which is usually met with "if you want that you should do that then" since literally no one wants to deal with the installer since it currently functions and 90% of people are just using venv now anyways.

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