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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (17 children) What's all this about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 months ago* (16 children) Ran into this same user in another thread defending a man calling women “bitches”. I found the contrast between their support here and their views there interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hello, I’m Tanis Nikana (she/her), I’m a photographer, a stand-up comic, a lesbian, and I try to do alright in the world. This is who you’re talking to, trying to pick apart my views on the word “bitches,” which are complex and nuanced. It’s nice to meet you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (6 children) Did I say something that was untrue? I do find your defense of calling women “bitches” more interesting after seeing your comments in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children) Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) That does sound curious. Makes me curious of the context as well. They sound pretty level headed from the comments here, so I'm hoping it's a misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) The context was it was a shitpost about a lesbian who's never been kissed, and no one knew OP's gender, so Velma was assuming that while trying to manufacture outrage on a shitpost. Meanwhile Tanis was basically self-identifying as "bitches," and Velma seemingly contradicted her own stance that it might be okay for women to "reclaim the slur" by shaming Tanis for being okay with using the term. It was pretty convoluted, but ultimately there seemed to be no point and it gave the vibe that Velma was just looking for a moral pedestal to grandstand on... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation. Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I've been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement. Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework... They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Starik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children) The context is that velma is a cantankerous (possibly troll) account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It doesn't seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she's just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn't scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions. I got no issues, no qualms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 months ago* (16 children) Ran into this same user in another thread defending a man calling women “bitches”. I found the contrast between their support here and their views there interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hello, I’m Tanis Nikana (she/her), I’m a photographer, a stand-up comic, a lesbian, and I try to do alright in the world. This is who you’re talking to, trying to pick apart my views on the word “bitches,” which are complex and nuanced. It’s nice to meet you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (6 children) Did I say something that was untrue? I do find your defense of calling women “bitches” more interesting after seeing your comments in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children) Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) That does sound curious. Makes me curious of the context as well. They sound pretty level headed from the comments here, so I'm hoping it's a misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) The context was it was a shitpost about a lesbian who's never been kissed, and no one knew OP's gender, so Velma was assuming that while trying to manufacture outrage on a shitpost. Meanwhile Tanis was basically self-identifying as "bitches," and Velma seemingly contradicted her own stance that it might be okay for women to "reclaim the slur" by shaming Tanis for being okay with using the term. It was pretty convoluted, but ultimately there seemed to be no point and it gave the vibe that Velma was just looking for a moral pedestal to grandstand on... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation. Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I've been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement. Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework... They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Starik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children) The context is that velma is a cantankerous (possibly troll) account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It doesn't seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she's just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn't scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions. I got no issues, no qualms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hello, I’m Tanis Nikana (she/her), I’m a photographer, a stand-up comic, a lesbian, and I try to do alright in the world. This is who you’re talking to, trying to pick apart my views on the word “bitches,” which are complex and nuanced. It’s nice to meet you! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (6 children) Did I say something that was untrue? I do find your defense of calling women “bitches” more interesting after seeing your comments in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children) Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (6 children) Did I say something that was untrue? I do find your defense of calling women “bitches” more interesting after seeing your comments in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children) Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (5 children) Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Velma, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) You replied to my comment, what do you want? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) I want the Thai food I just ordered, should be here in a moment. But as for you and me, we’re two people with conflicting opinions on the word “bitches.” Both of us are presumably leftist and our ballots would likely be identical. Good talk. EDIT: hell yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago I agree and I thought we had agreed to disagree otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) That does sound curious. Makes me curious of the context as well. They sound pretty level headed from the comments here, so I'm hoping it's a misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) The context was it was a shitpost about a lesbian who's never been kissed, and no one knew OP's gender, so Velma was assuming that while trying to manufacture outrage on a shitpost. Meanwhile Tanis was basically self-identifying as "bitches," and Velma seemingly contradicted her own stance that it might be okay for women to "reclaim the slur" by shaming Tanis for being okay with using the term. It was pretty convoluted, but ultimately there seemed to be no point and it gave the vibe that Velma was just looking for a moral pedestal to grandstand on... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation. Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I've been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement. Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework... They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Starik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children) The context is that velma is a cantankerous (possibly troll) account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It doesn't seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she's just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn't scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions. I got no issues, no qualms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) The context was it was a shitpost about a lesbian who's never been kissed, and no one knew OP's gender, so Velma was assuming that while trying to manufacture outrage on a shitpost. Meanwhile Tanis was basically self-identifying as "bitches," and Velma seemingly contradicted her own stance that it might be okay for women to "reclaim the slur" by shaming Tanis for being okay with using the term. It was pretty convoluted, but ultimately there seemed to be no point and it gave the vibe that Velma was just looking for a moral pedestal to grandstand on... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation. Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I've been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement. Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework... They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation. Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I've been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement. Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework... They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Starik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children) The context is that velma is a cantankerous (possibly troll) account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It doesn't seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she's just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn't scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions. I got no issues, no qualms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It doesn't seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she's just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn't scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions. I got no issues, no qualms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Starik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I like to be generous. 🙂 permalink fedilink source parent