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:sus-torment: .

Earlier hexbear post with Westley's full resume. In addition to working for the US Air Force and Boeing, he has expertise in computer graphics.

Mr. Westley supposedly posted on hexbear.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have no idea what this video is trying to communicate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kevin westley said that he posted the video in 2001 and accidentally left it private for 20 years. when people grew suspicious and pointed out that youtube didn't exist when he originally said he posted the video he changed it to the 2000s. the vid was actually posted in 2017. he also worked for Boeing as a chief engineer and worked on project horned owl in nevada for the air force which had to do with remote flight tech. it is roughly edited and if you aren't already brain broken by 9/11 it probably seems pretty confusing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay... but how does any of that matter in any way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's just suspicious man. The guy lies about when he posted the video where he checks his watch and then searches the opposites skyline as if he knows something is on its way. He also happened to work for the airforce creating remote drone tech. He just so happened to have a perfect view of the second tower getting hit that he "accidentally" hid for 20 years. This could all be coincidence. I don't know exactly what went down on 9/11 and its likely many of us will never know. There are a lot of ridiculous conspiracies but the circumstances surrounding 9/11 are very suspicious and this I just another one of those circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you go digging for coincidences, you'll find them no matter where you look, proportionate to however much effort you spend searching. It doesn't mean anything unless you have a specific hypothesis that could be backed up by some coincidences and refuted by others.

Here, go read Unsong. You'll have a good time, and maybe it'll help get my point across.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My friend you asked what this video was trying to get across and I am trying to explain that to you. It's not incredibly coherent. I do not believe that this man is the mastermind behind 9/11. I also don't belive the official story given to us. My point in this thread is Kevin is a real person and the circumstances surrounding his video coupled with his previous work history are strange to say the least. Its fun to poke around at but nothing can be taken from it as fact. Its just wierd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are there actual people proposing that Kevin masterminded 9/11? I'd be very much interested in hearing this theory from them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

My guess from this video is that some people believe that kevin was watching his work in action on remote flight tech being used. He does sound almost excited when he says oh my lord but that's not a justification for believing the dude helped in 9/11. And like I said I'm just guessing at this based off of the video. It is very strange and conspiracy is fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Masterminded? Nah. I think he was a pawn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you go digging for coincidences, you’ll find them no matter where you look, proportionate to however much effort you spend searching.

Mostly true but in my experience some events have more coincidences than others, even when controlling for effort and time searching. There are more coincidences surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's prison suicide than there are most prisoner suicides, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is Unsong a science fiction novel about conspiracy theories or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a fantasy novel about kabbalah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just curious how it relates to coincidences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's basically about spitballing reasoning out of coincidences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It’s just suspicious man.

I mean, its layers of suspicious staked deep. Like, how do I make any kind of evaluation wrt a video posted on YouTube by an account attached to some data I can't determine the veracity of from tip to tail? The fact that the narrative is clumsy and fake-sounding out the gate only makes it easier to dismiss the whole body of information as bullshit.

I don’t know exactly what went down on 9/11 and its likely many of us will never know.

I mean, we know four passenger airliners were hijacked and used as suicide missiles. We know the two largest buildings in NYC were leveled. We know the hijackers were primarily from Saudi Arabia. And we know the political aftermath of the event was used to pursue enemies of the US State (who were, coincidentally, not from Saudi Arabia).

But, like, if George Bush Jr and Dick Cheney wanted to trick people into invading Iraq with a false flag attack, there are a whole lot of ways they could have done it better.