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Yo πŸ‘Š (thelemmy.club)
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[–] -3 points 3 months ago (18 children)

You gotta fight from within. "I've voted Democrat and will continue to support the party, but [insert list of grievances]" plays a lot better than "I do not understand how US election work so I helped get Trump elected, now give me what I want".

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Centrists interpret all criticism as β€œI do not understand how US election work so I helped get Trump elected, now give me what I want” and have never given a shit about how anyone actually voted.

    Condescension will never be a substitute for policies people want, charismatic candidates, and a willingness to keep campaign promises. But since centrists don't have any of those, they go with what they have.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    I hate to break it to you, but I'm left of Sanders. Understanding how our election system (poorly) functions is essential if we are ever going to fix it. Knowing is half the battle!

    We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that’s the best path forward.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I hate to break it to you, but I’m left of Sanders.

    I don't buy it. You will interpret my lack of trust as a lack of understanding.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Classic thread. People have jumped from putting words in my mouth to tell me those words are wrong to pre-emptively doing it. I guess Lemmy suffers from the same weekend awfulness of other sites.

    What would appease you? You can view my comment history and scroll past many left posts. Maybe you'll find something in there that fits your narrative? Would you like me to post a Political Compass, PEW Political Topology, or some other test? A note from my doctor?

    Or is it simply, "hey, this guy who openly acknowledged our system is outdated and bad is trying to explain how coalitions work within it- what a [insert othering words of choice]" and that's where we live now?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Stop demanding what amounts to unquestioning fealty to the genocide wing of the party. That's what you can do.

    Funny how the coalition you tout only moves right.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    Funny how the coalition you tout only moves right.

    Probably because there is this widespread view on the left that is a combination of not understanding how our government/elections work and not understanding political coalitions as demonstrated by this thread. That and thinking that showing up once a year (let's be real, once every 4 years) to make a token gesture without doing the 364 days of fighting is enough. Hard to get what you want without participating and/or even understanding the situation.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Have you actually tried to do that? Like seriously tried? It was nepo babies all the way down when I attempted to β€œfight from within”.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    Hey, I really don't like how you're murdering people, but I won't stop shopping at your store. I'm going to change it from the inside

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    When has the USA ever not been murdering people? You think not voting against the guy who murders more people is sending a message? Now we're into full on magic-based thinking.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    When has the USA ever not been murdering people?

    When does it become wrong? Doing the only thing you like is no longer a winning position. Your electorate are better people than you're trying to force them to be.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    "Hey I don't like that guy raping babies and blowing up school girls, but I'll just stand here and do nothing that could have stopped him, either"

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