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D'awww. You wet blankets... (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Yeah, I'm equivalent to a neonazi because I say we shouldn't promote a neonazi website, that's a really smart comment. Just like we should all use tiktok or instagram because if we don't, we're no better than the book burner nazis, this is obvious. Thanks for enlightening me with you wisdom.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I am against virtually everything Hitler stood for. There is almost nothing that I and that terrible person would agree on. Yet I have read Mein Kampf.

    Likewise, I agree with very little in The Communist Manifesto, but I have read that as well.

    I encourage people to read these works, not because they are good, but because understanding bad ideas is one of the best ways to recognize and oppose them.

    You think Twitter is a neo-Nazi website because the billionaire who bought it performed a gesture that many people, myself included, interpreted as a Nazi salute two years ago.

    Based on what I know about the man, he may be racist. He may even be a closeted Nazi. I do not know. It certainly would not surprise me.

    What I do not do is tell people what books they should not read, what websites they should not visit, or what ideas they should not be exposed to simply because I dislike the politics involved.

    You are not demonstrating moral virtue by expressing your dislike of Twitter or its owner. You are demonstrating intellectual narrow-mindedness. If your beliefs are sound, they should be able to withstand exposure to opposing viewpoints.

    Just in case, I am talking about Elon Musk.

    Moreover, by condemning the posting of Twitter, you are essentially enforcing the same kind of rhetoric that pushes people into book burnings.

    Twitter should not be ignored. It should be embraced and then attacked for exactly the reasons why it isn't good to start with.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You think Twitter is a neo-Nazi website because the billionaire who bought it performed a gesture that many people, myself included, interpreted as a Nazi salute two years ago.

    Twitter is a neonazi shithole because it literally finances neonazi and far-right groups. And it's own by a neonazi.

    "You are not demonstrating moral virtue by expressing your dislike of Twitter or its owner. You are demonstrating intellectual narrow-mindedness. If your beliefs are sound, they should be able to withstand exposure to opposing viewpoints."

    LMAO, "I'm 14 and I"m an intellectual" type of stuff.

    Just say you don't want to leave twitter, you might be overestimating the interest people have in your opinions,

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Notice that you did not rebut a single point I made.

    You responded with two assertions and one insult.

    If your objection is that Twitter finances extremist groups, make that argument and support it. If your objection is that its owner is a neo-Nazi, make that argument and support it.

    Mocking me for sounding "intellectual" is not a rebuttal. It is an admission that you would rather attack the speaker than engage with the substance of what was said.

    Which brings us back around to my original point, that you are no better than the people you supposedly dislike. You currently sound like some maga fundie talking about how pronouns are woke just on the opposite side of the spectrum.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You probably never heard that Mark Twain quote cause you wouldn't know who he is but here: "Never Argue With Stupid People. They Will Drag You Down To Their Level and Then Beat You With Experience."

    BUT, you're in luck! I haven't fill my monthly quota on wasting my time on people like you so I'll bite.

    The fact Musk did a nazi salute was just him sending is heart to people. The fact that 48 hours after that, he was a guest speaker for the AfD (neo-nazi german party, here's one of their ads where parents makes a roof for the childrens. Was obviously just him engaging in friendly politics. The fact that is own stupid AI referred to itself as meka-Hitler and kept mentioning white genocide in South Afrika was just playful thing.

    The fact that the Creator Ads Revenu on twitter that musk created is just him advocating from freedom of speech. No need to do research by yourself, these are just fake news from antifa.

    Finally, I didn't said you sound like intellectual LMAO, I said you sound like a 14 years old WANNABE-intellectual. You're as much of intellectual as trump is a good negociator, peace-keeper and child protector, maybe this is compliment IDK. But I don't blame you. you're so full on yourself (who knows what's in there?) there might not be room an once of critical thinking.

    So in the end I think you're too smart to be here (so many books burner on Lemmy), you should go hang out with the plurality of totally-not-neonazi "content creator" on twitter.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    The Mark Twain quote does not even apply here.

    The point of that quote is that some people drag a discussion down to insults and personal attacks instead of engaging with arguments. Ironically, that is exactly what you have been doing throughout this conversation.

    I made an argument. You responded by calling me a 14-year-old wannabe intellectual. I made another argument. You responded with more insults about how full of myself I am.

    That is not "beating me with experience." It is avoiding the substance of the discussion.

    You are free to argue that Musk is a neo-Nazi. You are free to argue that Twitter financially benefits extremists. Those are actual arguments that can be discussed.

    What you have not done is explain why reading objectionable material is wrong, why exposure to opposing viewpoints is harmful, or why people should avoid ideas simply because they dislike them.

    Instead, you keep reaching for personal attacks while lecturing others about critical thinking.

    The most amusing part is the level of condescension. You quote Mark Twain, tell me I probably have never heard of him, announce that you are graciously willing to waste some of your monthly quota of time on me, and then spend several paragraphs explaining how intellectually superior you think you are.

    At some point you should ask yourself whether you are actually arguing against my position or just performing for an audience.

    For someone so concerned about arrogance, you seem remarkably confident that disagreement with you can only be explained by stupidity.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That is a long ass comment just to demonstrate you don't know who Mark was lol. Do you have a hard on when you write shit like this, or only when you read it back?

    That is not “beating me with experience.” It is avoiding the substance of the discussion. LMFAO - you really didn't get the quote did you? You are one the most eloquent demonstration of the relevance of it that I've came across.

    Go read the fucking Mein Kampf and jerk with nazis on twitter, I don't give a fuck. I should also check out Jordan Peterson and the late Charlie Kirk (you're probably already a fan).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I sure am.

    I think I see some master-debating people right there, on facebook. You should go have a high-level intellectual discussion about why it's important to promote a website that financially supports neonazis. You're gonna fit just right.

    Have a wonderful day. X X X

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