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I was afraid Proton would eventually go down the far right route... and it seems like my fears came true
their CEO publicly announced support for trump; anyone saying otherwise about proton's proclivities is coping too hard -- especially the ones in this community.
you can say this about literally every tech company these days.
very true; capitalists will always capital.
Which is why we support Open Source like Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, NextCloud, LibreOffice and a whole lot more. :-)
Any good VPNs big dawg?
I don't need VPN... Sorry mate.
I'd cut nextcloud from that list
Why?
As long as it is open source, then there's not much to worry about. ;-)
With euro office coming up, there was some musing that libre office has Russian roots, does that change the equation any?
From what I understood: ONLYOFFICE is a fork of Libre Office by a russian company. NextCloud was using ONLYOFFICE for its built-in cloud office suite replacement. Then they forked it with others to have greater control on the software with no communication whatsever to the company developing ONLYOFFICE without respecting their questionnable trademark restriction within ONLYOFFICE licence which I am still unsure if it was compatible with GPL licence Libre Office is using.
It's Euro-Office that might have Russians roots. Do get the facts straight. ;-)
LibreOffice is the only real free and open, open source office suite out there.
Isn't libre also a fork of open?
Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford.
Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins.
Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up.
Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'.
afaik euro-office is a fork of libreoffice that is redesigned to look more like onlyoffice
that or it's a fork from onlyoffice
I have not seen evidence of Proton "going the far right route" yet. They are just sponsoring channels that ever mention privacy and far right ones frequently does that too. You can blame proton for no scrutinize, but not of siding with the right or the left. Proton is just focusing in mayor growth and nothing else, for better or for worse.
Archived BlueSky Post of them: https://archive.ph/2yWGz
I read this. The guy criticising him seemed like a liberal chud, and the CEO, imo, seems like a centrist chud.
In fact, he seems like an anti corporation radical centrist.
Of course this is the dumbest thing for him to say, considering Trumps corruption with Elon Musk, and him having multi billionaire tech CEOs at his inauguration, clearly Trump is not against big tech.
I can't see much of a problem with this, yeah Trump actually did started something useful for all the wrong reasons and the guy praised that, the company sponsoring far right weirdos is waaaay more problematic to be honest.