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Mozilla released their studies, and I'm seeing a growing number of posts on the Internet about cars and the privacy nightmare they entail. I remember how this issue wasn't talked about earlier because "just buy an older car" was still prevalent. I'm so happy that people are taking notice. Thank you to this community and Mozilla for the work they are putting in!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Getting a base model can somewhat help too. My 2020 car only has carplay. No built in navigation or any remote or homing tech (that I know of). It’s the higher trims that get all the fancy tech “features”.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Oh my god, no. No, no, no.

Just because they aren't making those features available to you doesn't mean they aren't still tracking all that stuff.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean sort of. What is "base" has also changed.

Try finding an EV that doesn't have automatic windows but has old school manual rollup/rolldown windows. You can't, even though its more environmentally friendly.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m sorry but roll windows are awful and I’ve personally seen people nearly get in accidents because they’re focused on rolling the window instead of the road.

I am willing to bet A LOT that the energy consumption of the small window servo is trivial on the ev’s battery and is a worthwhile expenditure so that the already incompetent drivers aren’t engaging in a physical task while driving down the highway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Before every car had electrical windows, they was car with electric for the front seats but not the back. It's a nice compromise.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've definitely fiddled more on finding the damn switch to roll the windows than manually rolling them down. Goddamn switch is always in a different place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's absurd. You must have many other issues if finding a button that is nearly guaranteed to be in basically the same spot across all cars is so difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I actually have :D But seriously, alright then. Maybe it's just me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With a button you just press it to close the windows for a short stint of faster driving where having the windows down is uncomfortable. With a flange you'd probably be more inclined to leave them open because of the effort required to close them while driving. I think having your windows open even for a few short drives leads to more energy usage by increased drag than the window servo uses in the whole cars' lifetime. So I don't think it is any more environmentally friendly.