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[–] 268 points 3 months ago (79 children)

Kids these days don't even know about the hole in the ozone later.

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  • [–] 222 points 3 months ago (27 children)

    It's kinda our last big environmental win.

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  • [–] 128 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    There's been some conservation wins that I know of. Okaloosa Darter fish came off of endangered status, and eventually off of threatened The Red Cockaded Woodpecker was elevated from endangered to threatened a few years ago.

    Controlled burns in the US long leaf pine forests have also lead to a return of the quail population.

    Just trying to sprinkle a little good news out there.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Cockaded Woodpecker

    Now your just making shit up.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Winner of the "most penis euphemisms in one name" award.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Top contenders:

    Red-cockaded Woodpecker — "cockaded" refers to a ribbon or rosette ornament once worn on hats, not anatomy.

    Cock-of-the-rock — sounds like a tavern name invented by a teenager.

    Dickcissel — often cited as the funniest North American bird name. "Dick" was historically a common nickname for a male bird.

    Bush Thick-knee — not penis-related, but frequently gets laughs.

    Rufous-naped Lark — harmless, but "rufous-naped" is often misread at a glance. Shag — in British English, perfectly normal; elsewhere, not so much.

    Cockatoo — contains "cock," though the name comes from Malay, not English.

    Woodcock — another classic.

    Black-cockatoo and other cockatoos — bonus points for stacking "cock" into longer names.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    American Bison, too. The repopulation of American bison (often mistakenly called buffalo) is one of the most successful repopulation efforts in history. The reason you’re able to order buffalo (again, not actually buffalo) burgers at your local hipster burger joint is because American bison is no longer endangered. The population has come from less than 1000 total bison (all privately owned by a handful of conservationists) to over 400k today.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The irony of all ironies is how similar the words "conservation" and "conservative" are.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago*

    That's because the root of both is to conserve. To keep things the way they are.

    Politics gets in the way of that reality since they don't actively want to keep it the same, they actually want to regress back to previous times they can exploit personally.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    iirc ~1/4 of the worlds energy production is renewable. More than 90% of all new electricity capacity worldwide came from renewable sources in 2024. Doomers want you to believe it can't happen again while we are in the very decade that is likely to change the world. Public policy doesn't even matter at this point, renewable energy is cheaper, so nearly all new investments are in renewables.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Energy sources are only part of the issue (albeit a major one) and enormous damage has already been done to a disastrous point, calling people "doomers" with an intent to ridicule their angst, worries and experiences is akin to climate change denial.

    Also, public policy is constantly used in an expensive way if that it suits the ruling classes, markets are not some neutral forces in a vacuum.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I'm concerned about climate change. But if you ask most people how much progress we've made they would say "barely any". That belief that we can't do it, is the main thing aside from public policy slowing us down. When people think things are hopeless, they often don't see the point in fighting or changing their behavior. I also think most people don't realize that renewable energy adoption has accelerated so quickly the last few years. Every year we have had massive growth over last year in adoption.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That's only the case because it was the cheapest option available for a while. Oil execs noticed the trend and got cold feet, now a lot of governments are cutting back subsidies for renewables and actively hinder new projects being build. Here in germany we have investors abandoning half build solar parks cause they aren't profitable anymore. At the same time we allow oil companies to bid for gigantic offshore projects just so they can say that they have no interest in actually building it after they won.

    With the ozon hole you could see the world working together to fix it despite it beeing somewhat less profitable. With renewables you can see governments actively working against the movement despite it being the best in terms of environment and profits combined.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Tbf, its not even yet a win technically.

    TCO is expected to return to 1980 values around 2066 in the Antarctic, around 2045 in the Arctic, and around 2040 for the near-global average (60°N-60°S). - Source

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So is that good news, that we’re moving in the right direction?

    Though the very next sentence from that linked source says

    The assessment of the depletion of TCO in regions around the globe from 1980-1996 remains essentially unchanged since the 2018 Assessment.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    2018 to 2022 didnt see much change (and given how far until its fully returned to normal, I think you can see qhy - it takes a long time to fully heal), but we're certainly pretty far into success compared to where we were.

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  • [–] 73 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    I just told my kid about how we fixed acid rain through regulation just this morning

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago* (11 children)

    Well it's understandable, the concept of being able to actually cooperate and do something about the environment on a world scale instead of just blindly pretending it's not a thing until it kills us all is a bit hard to believe for younger generations for obvious reasons.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    I don't understand, why would it sound implausible? Isn't that what governments are FOR?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    We managed to dial things back a bit, so that became a smaller problem.

    We used to see regular news reports of actual rivers on fire. Things are still way too bad, but we forcefully throttled some things as we saw how quickly the damage was compounding.

    Women’s hair doesn’t defy gravity without lots of help.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Oh my god I needed your comment for it to finally click, I was thinking "they stopped putting their hair up to protect their shoulders from the increased UVs"? But of course, it was referencing the sprays!

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    ozone later

    Well that's because we're at now, not at later.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    We've had one ozone yes, but what about later ozone?

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    Most don't know that we have an ozone layer let alone that there is a hole in it.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    One of my coworkers insists that the hole in the ozone layer is an iris that expands and contracts for regulation. When I asked him what it was regulating, he just shrugged and gave a look that said "I don't know, you tell me"

    He also claimed that believing that humans were capable of changing the global climate was pure hubris, despite the USSR deleting the Caspian sea decades ago.

    And he thinks the wind turbines that have been installed in the past 10 years are making tornadoes worse, contradicting his claims that humans can't change the climate

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I think your coworker may be a lost cause, do you think you could convince him that anti-freeze and turpentine will make him see god?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Engineering a death by misadventure doesn't seem ethical to me

    Just wait for the people he follows on the internet to tell him

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    in a situation in which harm increase over time, like the rise of far right, anti-science, environmental damage, etc… perhaps that “wait” is a less ethical solution than to solve the problem

    now, perhaps causing harm isn’t the way to go, but… the lesser of 2 evils may still be somewhat problematic

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