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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Okay, but now I want to see what the end state looks like for optimal (or near-optimal) play between both participants in this fucked-up chess variant.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago

It's pretty straight forward I think. Each side loses one piece every round. If white somehow runs out of pawns that can check the black king, or if the black king manages to get behind the pawns, white can still promote some of them and win.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

~~What? In the bottom board, assuming white to move, any capture is a checkmate - black king cannot escape check, and cannot capture because the pawn is supported.~~

~~White wins in 1 move.~~

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 17 hours ago

How?

The knights can defend at least two attacks.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I'm dumb. Thank you for correcting me.

[-] exu@feditown.com 10 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't promoted pawns join the other side? Like a manager getting a payrise

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, yeah, I guess I was forgetting about promoting. Agreed that white definitely wins then.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

It's pretty clearly a win for white, unless black forces a stalemate. Those knights won't last and that's a fuckton of pawns, even ignoring promotion.

It would be tricksy trying to get checkmate without promoting any, but one or two promotions is all it would take to make it a sinch.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It would be tricksy trying to get checkmate without promoting any

So what you're saying is, the strategy of e.g. Occupy Wall Street, avoiding creating leaders, made it less effective than it could've been.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Not sure, I was just analyzing the chess board.

Although I will say that decentralized movements may tend to shoot themselves in the foot by failing to coalesce around any solid leadership.

There's good ways to do leadership and bad ways to do leadership. A movement can be grassroots and decentralized while still having leaders.

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