Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.
The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.
I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.
When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".
I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.
What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.
it’s not good. which is why the inward facing camera in cars is not good. for the exact same reason.
But that's not the same power relationship. The usage I explained is about safety for yourself, passengers and people on the road and nearby. The usage for Amazon is about increasing productivity and send the data up the hierarchy. They are not the same usage with the same technology.
the problem is you think there is or will be a difference
I clearly defined the context. You can argue for things outside of what I defined but then you're not discussing about what I proposed. I can still repeat it in a simpler way at the risk of being condescending : if it's misused, it's bad. If it's used properly for the reason I mention I do believe it's good.
i am arguing what you proposed has not conformed to reality, that the actual result is already seen, and there is no defensive reason to allow inward facing cameras, there is only an additional risk when arguing culpability of an incident. and for that argument of ai helping to keep drivers alert, the full consequence of that thought has already played out as a detriment to truck drivers, with no noticeable gain
So you don't think me witnessing drivers falling asleep at the wheel is sufficient?
no