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I am trying to capture costs for starting into homelab/selfhosting.

VPNs, search engines, absolutely everything and anything.

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[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I was tempted to say $0, but then I thought harder about the problem.

Technically I do have ongoing costs

  • PAYG costs for Usenet-news (iirc, $22USD for 500GB block)

https://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=home

  • News indexer (I think...$60 every 5 years?)

https://www.nzbgeek.info/

Electricity (whatever tiny amount raspberry pi sips). At a guess, maybe $50/yr.

So, amortised over time - very low but not zero. In theory, if I dropped Usenet, it would even lower. And theoretically, I could run the pi off a single solar panel and a diy solar kit but I'm not busy pretending to be Robinson Crusoe just yet. Though... It might be a cool project.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

$50/year electrical bill for a Pi?!

Nevermind, I just did some back of the napkin math and came out around 35 a year if I was running one full power 24/7, so yeah, that is the right ballpark guess for a maximum.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, same. Though at 3-5W ... it really is just a very rough guess. Lemme ShitGPT it. Oh, I was way off


A realistic Pi 4B-only estimate is about A$8–A$12 per year in electricity, assuming it is on 24/7 and used for Jellyfin streaming around 10–12 hours per week.

Pi 4B measurements are typically around 2.7–2.85 W at idle, about 5.1 W under moderate server load, and around 6.4 W under full CPU stress. Using Perth/WA’s Synergy Home Plan A1 energy charge of 32.3719 c/kWh, excluding the daily supply charge, that works out very cheaply because the device uses only about 25–36 kWh/year.

Scenario Assumed usage Annual energy Approx. annual cost

Mostly idle 3 W 24/7 26.3 kWh A$8.51/year Idle + 12h/wk Jellyfin 2.7 W idle, 5.1 W streaming 25.1 kWh A$8.14/year Heavier Jellyfin/server use 2.7 W idle, 6.4 W streaming 26.0 kWh A$8.40/year Conservative wall-power estimate 4 W idle, 6.4 W streaming 36.5 kWh A$11.83/year

The bigger swing factor is storage, not the Pi. A USB SSD adds very little; a USB-powered 2.5" hard drive might add a few dollars per year; a powered 3.5" external drive left spinning 24/7 could push the total more into the A$15–A$30/year range.

So, for the Raspberry Pi 4B itself as a Jellyfin box: roughly A$10/year is a good mental estimate.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I went off the power supply maximum output. 5.1 volts, 3 amps, so 15 watts per hour. 24hrs per day, 365 days a year, so 131,400 watt-hours, or 131kilowatt-hours. My electricity is about $0.25/kwh (advertised at 0.09/kwh, but when you add on bullshit fees, the final rate is much higher), so I came up with $32.85 as the maximum amount any device connected to that power supply could cost.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yep. But that would be 100% CPU, 100% of the time? Real life, it's probably closer to 2w idle and maybe 5-7W under typical load.

More interesting...I think that technically means you could make a "UPS" for it using what...4xAA batteries?

Oh man...that would be cool. Stupid but cool.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

You might want to consider Premiumize for Usenet (and torrent cache) at that price. Catch it on the Black Friday sale. I think it does NZB as well.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Torrent cache? As in seedbox?

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Usenet...boy that brings back some memories from back in the day. Surprised that it seems to still be going strong.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yarrr! But it really mostly is Yarr these days. So don't go firing up Trumpet winsock to check Forte Agent :)

[-] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Things just seemed......simpler back then.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

They were, I think. Or we were just younger.

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Ahh yeah. Good ol winaock. DLL. Just copy the DLL and magically these programs are connected???

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

I remember it being a touch more ...analog...back in the day. ATDT commands and all.

But yeah, Win 3.11+ trumpet winsock and Free Agent were the shit. Rec.martial.arts was home back then (along with mIRC).

Lemmy reminds me a bit of the old Usenet fora.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago

This is why torrents are better! I torrent the highest quality files I can find so I'd blow through that 500gb quickly.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Debatable :) Torrents rely on seeders. I've downloaded movies and TV shows >5 yrs since initial upload via Usenet. Yes, things expire there too (eventually), but when the getting is good, it's uniformly good / fast.

OTOH, 1337 has been pretty decent to me of late.

It's tricky. On one hand, Jellyfin and the arr stack are what got me into self hosting. OTOH...torrents are simpler - I can plug my external SSD directly into my router, which streams to NovaPlayer on any android device - nothing else needed. Want a new show / movie? Grab the torrent, punt it across to ssd via samba share. It auto populates.

https://github.com/nova-video-player/aos-AVP

It's...simpler. Arguably more elegant / less moving parts.

Dunno.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Unlimited Usenet plans are pretty cheap to depending on sales.

Edit to add: I'm not a quality snob, but I'd probably blow through 500GB way too quickly.

[-] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Use to last me 2-3 months... but my media library is more or less complete now, with little churn. Also, I don't ever go above 1080p.

I need to check if Radarr / Sonarr works with straight torrents (it must do; I haven't used them for ages / have been using 1337 manually, but I seem to recall torrents being a source).

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