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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/books@lemmy.world

It just seems incredibly odd for there to be so many lines in a book about gender insisting that there is no way to refer to someone (in the English language, at least) without implying gender. She even mentions the possibility of using „it“ at one point!

I’m liking the book otherwise, but every time the narrators ponder about pronouns without even considering „they“ I have to ask myself if there is any point in ignoring it or if she genuinely just forgot. I don’t think it’s possible for her to have not known about it considering how well-read she was and how long it’s been in use.

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[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 days ago

As an irrelevant side note, the whole problem of gendered pronouns would go away if we, you know, just didn't. Use gendered pronouns, I mean.

Persian (Farsi) has existed for ages without gendered pronouns of any kind, indeed without grammatical gender of any kind. So has Chinese until the humiliation of the Opium Wars made them adopt gendered pronouns ... but only in the written form ... as a form of aping their colonizers' grammar. This leaves us with the irony of the Chinese making their writing more complicated because it diverges from their speech to please their foreign colonial overlords, only to now have those colonial overlords agonizing over gendered pronouns and making up hundreds of them for no good reason. So China imported a non-solution to a non-problem to appeal to colonizers who now think gendered pronouns are icky. This is hilarious to me.

I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that Finnish doesn't have gendered pronouns as well. Turkish too, I think. There may actually be more languages without grammatical gender (or at least weakly gendered) than languages with.

[-] bobbymartel68@fedinsfw.app 2 points 5 days ago

Well English has "it" but apparently it's impolite or something... Coming from French we don't even have that

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