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The coming coordination calamity (surfingcomplexity.blog)
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[-] locuester@lemmy.zip -2 points 20 hours ago

Yes, that must be wonderful to live in academic world and to throw around papers and shit but down here on the ground a lot of us actually get shit done and we aren’t the delusional ones that are pretending like somethings making us faster because we don’t have the money to waste if it’s not actually making us faster.

Are you an engineer? I’m trying to get a feel for what type of people don’t think that LLMs are useful for software engine

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 4 points 19 hours ago

FYI in many countries the term "engineer" is protected. Software devs would not be allowed to call themselves engineers without some kind of certification.

All that aside, I think you'll find that a majority of people on this instance write code regularly, whether as a hobby or day job. Also, at my software dev day job, we actually regularly discuss the academic research around LLMs primarily because it has a major impact on our work.

Personally speaking, what I've seen over the past few years is that it creates pretty demos really quickly that fall apart the minute you need to actually develop for real. The code becomes an unmaintainable amalgamation of random libraries used to do the same thing multiple ways, and my coworkers who rely on it heavily have learned basically nothing about the libraries or tools they use because they ask the LLM to do it all for them. This is also ignoring the complete lack of motivation I have now for PR reviews knowing that the same mistakes will be made again and again in the future because teaching a coworker a better way to do something does nothing to improve the output of a LLM, which cannot learn.

That's not to say you can't use it effectively. There just needs to be a balance between what you do as a developer vs what you have the LLM churn out quickly for you. It requires a lot of direction, enough so that I find it to be a waste of time as opposed to implementing things myself usually. Plus, I actually learn more doing it all myself, like upcoming library versions, changes in the tools and libraries I use since last using them, new language features, and so on.

While I'm not going to do a code review of your linked projects (nor do I believe that would be very useful), it sounds to me like you've found a way to make it work for you. That's awesome. I, unfortunately, am regularly subjected to the slop emitted by it when in the hands of people who are actively destroying what experience they might have once had in favor of doing less work.

[-] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I’m familiar with some places protecting that word.

I find all the workforce productivity related academic papers in the space right now to be sensationalist and subjective. We just haven’t had enough time to let the dust fall.

Totally understand what you’re struggling with. Ppl still need to care about and understand what they’re writing and make sure things are done properly. You don’t oneshot everything.

Also, it depends on what types of systems you’re working on. Integration and glue code in backend systems is where I live most of the time. Using ai removes a lot of tedious boilerplate.

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