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[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I do look at history. As in actual history and not the propaganda they teach in high school and broadcast on TV.

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago

So you'd know then that the Chinese government is pretty bad eh.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Not nearly as bad as the US/Western Bourgeois. 10 million people die every year from starvation and preventable disease. These deaths can be tied directly to the system of capitalism that uses state imperialism to exploit global south countries, keeping them impoverished, and then withholding food and medicine because it is not profitable to send aid to the countries they have ravaged. The United States alone has killed a further 38 million people in the last 50 years through economic sanctions based on ideological differences.

Even if you believe the most extreme estimates of deaths caused by the Chinese government, and fully attribute them to malice instead of a combination of incompetence and natural famine cycles, the number of people who died is dwarfed by the ongoing slaughter of capitalism.

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago

There is much confllation here how do you separate the two entities in this? 10 million people die every year by starvation and preventable disease? Sure, the Chinese government is committong genocide currently, what CEO of a tech company is doing that and putting up numbers toward that goal?

Ever hear of Hong Kong? Taiwan? 1989 Tiananmen Square?

These are our current examples of atrociites by the Chinese government. Share an example from the other camp that even comes close.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah there may be an overlap. But the 10 million deaths from starvation and preventable disease is the worldwide number (and may actually be an underestimate according to that source), while the 38 million deaths from sanctions is just in sanctioned countries.

  1. Xianjiang
  2. Hong Kong
  3. Tiananmen Square (Also, Tiananmen happened 37 years ago, it can hardly be called current)

These links may provide you with more information than you previously had regarding common criticisms of China. Read them with the understanding that if you live in the West, your prior information has been heavily propagandized, misconstrued, or outright fabricated.

As for US tech atrocities, how about aiding and abetting the actual genocide that is happening in Gaza?

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Haha. I'll read them but if you are trying to say China is the good guy, you are yourself a propagandist. Likel in the employ of the Chinese government. Make sure your local Chinese police department in the US don't catch you.

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