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So you simultaneously see this as deflating revolutionary spirit and also don’t care about revolutionary spirit because you see the American working class as a lost cause? This is just edgelord bs.
I don't see it as a revolutionary act I see it as a counter revolutionary measure designed to placate the radicalism that was slowly built up. I've said this before Zohran represents the death of radicalism.
You ain't wrong. He threw his wife under the bus.
FUCK this noise.
The "middle" class in the US, the folks still buying houses and cars, DoorDashing from Whole Foods and shit - allllll the folks "propping up the economy" by floating on generational money from "the good old days" - that's who needs to suffer and become radicalized, if anything is to change.
The fucking poor here have done their bit, they have nothing left to offer and will continue to be mercilessly preyed upon by so many doing so much better. Let them eat some cheap food. Fuck your idea of "revolution", you sound fucking gross.
Revolution is not a dinner party. "Some Chinese dude idk who cares"
Do you think change will come without conflict? Do you think if the citizens of the united States get health care they'll stop being imperialists? No it takes people who are willing to sacrifice things who change things. The intellectuals who led the Bolsheviks weren't the catalyst of change in Russia, it was four years of war despotic rulership and oppression which made the Russian people rise up AND CHOOSE THE BOLSHEVIKS to lead them. Without the people the Bolsheviks would of just been a bumch of nerds who argued a lot. Lenin knew this. Like holy shit I bet I could get some person on this forum to rant about kautsky for an hour, but god forbid you criticize the so called radicals who feed you peanuts so that you're placated enough to feel like our society doesn't need more change. Kautsky and other social democrats achieved a lot more social change in a lot less time than Zohran ever will by opening up a couple of food co ops, which honestly are pretty fucking common all over the world. The fact that American leftists see this as such an abnormality shows the poverty of their view of radical change.
Don't get me wrong I hate that westerns only have the French revolution as a barometer for change but honestly it gets shit done sometimes. Revolution is a chaotic act, and pretending like nobody might get hurt is insanely idealistic, if you want to go down the reformist path then you guys have to be willing to be a lot more radical as reformists because that's what opens the door for even more revolutionary change. We need a stab in the dark right now and while also trying to remember the mistakes that revolutionaries before us made, Zohran only got elected because people wanted him to be elected and that's something we need to grapple with. The left kind of does have a lot of power right now and Zohran should be less coy about using it. Fuck just fufilling the campaign promises, push these people. Let's get real here NYC might be underwater in 100 years so who cares if he built a couple of groceriy stores. If you want me to get hyped about reformism then atleast start talking about banning cars.
We know from Covid that its possible to lower our Co2 outputs and still live insanely comfortable lives, most of the misery people had to live with during Covid was due to a political choice not to redistribute wealth. Sorry if I'm an asshole for not giving a shit about NYC. What fucks up my mind more is knowing that some poor guys in India are dying having to pave roads when its 40 fucking degrees outside and unless we in the imperial core do something it will only get worse. Hell even extracting all the minerals and resources we need through the magic of unequal exchange will start becoming difficult when parts of the Congo just become in inhabitable because of climate change. This system is insanely broken and I'm cynical, but I'm also hopeful because I know that humans can use their brains to solve problems, we just need to start actually addressing them.
I will always feel worse about that uncontacted tribe in the andamans islands sinking because of the fuckery we do then somebody having to live off coca cola and Kraft's Mac and cheese in NYC.
Gross AND sociopathic