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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

It is no different in the US with our violent rightwing extremists and it makes no difference, fascism never truly wins through majority popularity.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

A minority can take over if the majority does nothing to prevent it.
That's way more how it looks in USA than in Germany IMO.
Still I hope USA has a tipping point, where normal people has had enough.
And I wouldn't bet 100% on the mid terms fixing the problem. USA is in a much worse position, because it's a flawed democracy, with only 2 parties that realistically can have the power of governing. That makes people much less likely to see an alternative they like better than the sociopathy and destruction of society that has become the brand of Republicans. It's a mindset of "If I have to suffer, you have to fucking suffer too."

In Germany there has actually been convictions against AfD people, so there are already limits to what they are allowed to do without going to prison. Contrary to Trump who is allowed to make crime after crime without consequences.
For instance AfD party members have been sentenced jail time for being Russian agents, and for a period of time, AfD members of the Bundestag were not allowed to see confidential papers, because their integrity was questioned.

With the Russian federation seemingly collapsing, a lot of outside influence will probably disappear, and Trump/Musk are no longer popular even among AfD members.

Yes I understand it's a problem that AfD is as big as it is, and it can cause problems governing Germany that so many support AfD, but I don't see Nazism taking control of Germany, by taking control of a German government.
The opposition to them is too strong for that.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The opposition to them is too strong for that.

It looks pretty meager to me.

I think you are forgetting that Germany actually has committed a Holocaust against Jews and that this Holocaust began as a politically fringe movement.

One of the leading parties of in Germany literally has Theology in the name, you have to be kidding me if you don't think Germany is right on the edge of succombing to fascism.

but I don't see Nazism taking control of Germany, by taking control of a German government.
The opposition to them is too strong for that.

Why? Were there not many who were at first opposed the first time the Nazis did it in Germany? Fascism takes over by taking the reigns of government and convincing empty centrists to stick to their obsession with decorum instead of sounding the fire alarm like they need to, it does not require a broad endorsement of it by a majority of the population. To believe it does is very very dangerous.

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