▲ 383 ▼ Single-sex toilets must exclude transgender people, says Equality and Human Rights Commission (www.theguardian.com) submitted 3 months ago by Valuy@lemmy.zip to c/world@lemmy.world 379 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's what he said: excuses, and usually not very good ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) he they internet accounts are they unless otherwise specified permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago i see, does make sense here it still is good practice especially that often "he" is used without consideration permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Especially on Lemmy, where the users seem to fall into one of two stereotypes: ultra-nerdy dudes, and trans/NB people. Hell, over at !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone, they may even fit both groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) trans/NB people nonbinary people do fall under the trans umbrella unless they are intersex in a particular way that they regard their nonbinary gender identity as matching what they were assigned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans. This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago (2 children) he they internet accounts are they unless otherwise specified permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago i see, does make sense here it still is good practice especially that often "he" is used without consideration permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Especially on Lemmy, where the users seem to fall into one of two stereotypes: ultra-nerdy dudes, and trans/NB people. Hell, over at !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone, they may even fit both groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) trans/NB people nonbinary people do fall under the trans umbrella unless they are intersex in a particular way that they regard their nonbinary gender identity as matching what they were assigned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans. This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago i see, does make sense here it still is good practice especially that often "he" is used without consideration permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago i see, does make sense here it still is good practice especially that often "he" is used without consideration permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) Especially on Lemmy, where the users seem to fall into one of two stereotypes: ultra-nerdy dudes, and trans/NB people. Hell, over at !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone, they may even fit both groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) trans/NB people nonbinary people do fall under the trans umbrella unless they are intersex in a particular way that they regard their nonbinary gender identity as matching what they were assigned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans. This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) trans/NB people nonbinary people do fall under the trans umbrella unless they are intersex in a particular way that they regard their nonbinary gender identity as matching what they were assigned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans. This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Philosophical question. In a jurisdiction that allows for full government recognition of someone not being either male or female, and if someone was "assigned NB at birth" then remains NB into adulthood... sounds like they wouldn't meet the technical definition of trans. This comment isn't about taking anything away from anyone, it's about a tiny little thought experiment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) why would government recognition affect whether theyre trans but yes, intersex people can be cis enbies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, trans is being a gender other than what you were assigned as, or raised as, or whatever. If what you were assigned/raised as is, say, agender, and you continue to be agender, does that not make you "yes NB, not technically trans"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child) i suppose so if you were raised as agender parents should do this agender should be the default, gender should be opt in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago I'm with you. permalink fedilink source parent