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[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 3 months ago (35 children) The fuck who read that shit Stephen is disgusting permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 35 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 51 points 3 months ago (29 children) I think a lot of people never saw it coming. He was on a lot of drugs at the time. That said, in every single book he wrote, he has very elaborate scenes where a person urinates themselves. Every. Single. Book. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 child) I think he actually avoided that in The Stand by having Harold cum on himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (8 children) On the one hand, I kinda get the logic. On the other, Stephen no, wtf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago (7 children) You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (6 children) The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (17 children) Why do people love this guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children) His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem's Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* Didn't forget Shawshank redemption. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago (6 children) I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay. He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all. With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I've seen are pretty bad though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer's Ballmer Peak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent [–] zipkag@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It's very different from his other books though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 months ago (5 children) read the book and tell us if it's any good? if you're morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) It's not. evil asshole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago It's a weird and completely unnecessary scene narratively speaking but it's not even close to porn. It's one of many similar examples in King's writing, seems like the guy was molested as a kid and tried working through it with his writing permalink fedilink source parent [–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children) He was extremely coked out of his mind during those years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Famously has no memory of writing Tommy Knockers permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 months ago Probably just wrote up his dreams LOL permalink fedilink source parent [–] wuffah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago Let’s put it this way, enough people read IT that IT got three movies and a TV series. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 51 points 3 months ago (29 children) I think a lot of people never saw it coming. He was on a lot of drugs at the time. That said, in every single book he wrote, he has very elaborate scenes where a person urinates themselves. Every. Single. Book. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 child) I think he actually avoided that in The Stand by having Harold cum on himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (8 children) On the one hand, I kinda get the logic. On the other, Stephen no, wtf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago (7 children) You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (6 children) The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (17 children) Why do people love this guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children) His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem's Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* Didn't forget Shawshank redemption. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago (6 children) I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay. He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all. With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I've seen are pretty bad though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer's Ballmer Peak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent [–] zipkag@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It's very different from his other books though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 months ago (5 children) read the book and tell us if it's any good? if you're morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) It's not. evil asshole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 child) I think he actually avoided that in The Stand by having Harold cum on himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (8 children) On the one hand, I kinda get the logic. On the other, Stephen no, wtf. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago (7 children) You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (6 children) The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 3 months ago (7 children) You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (6 children) The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (6 children) The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago That's not necessarily why you take drugs. Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to "enhance" an otherwise already positive time. From what I've heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn't know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore. To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven't heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there's something you need to address but you don't know what. Terrible if you know there's something but you can't handle dealing with it. Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn't exactly the best way of handling things but at least you're not pouring fuel onto the fire. Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would've shied away from, that's true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don't mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure... the list goes on and on. Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn't handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au -4 points 3 months ago (2 children) I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago Anything's possible when you make shit up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago Why does it look like every rich/sucesseful person suddenly gets a sexual desire for children permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (17 children) Why do people love this guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children) His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem's Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* Didn't forget Shawshank redemption. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago (6 children) I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay. He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all. With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I've seen are pretty bad though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer's Ballmer Peak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent [–] zipkag@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It's very different from his other books though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 months ago (5 children) read the book and tell us if it's any good? if you're morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) It's not. evil asshole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children) His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem's Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* Didn't forget Shawshank redemption. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago I think his latest stuff is pretty good. The Mr. Mercedes and Holly series are an interesting take on a detective series, IMO. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* Didn't forget Shawshank redemption. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* The Four Seasons one is my favorite. Except for the Winter story. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago (6 children) I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay. He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all. With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I've seen are pretty bad though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer's Ballmer Peak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent [–] zipkag@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It's very different from his other books though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children) His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I've seen are pretty bad though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Shawshank? Shining? Mist? Green Mile? Misery? Maybe not everything is a winner, but these are pretty classic movies and some like Pet Sematary, Thinner, Carrie, Dream Catcher and many others are not bad movies. The Running Man wasn't super well made (old one) but a decent movie for it's time. I haven't even seen half of his adapted works and I just rattled off 10 movies that pretty universally are not seen as "pretty bad": permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago Good points, actually. I've seen Shawshank, Shining and Misery and they were all good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) Is using cocaine the writing equivalent of the programmer's Ballmer Peak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced. However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books. I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zipkag@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It's very different from his other books though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 months ago (5 children) read the book and tell us if it's any good? if you're morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) It's not. evil asshole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (4 children) It's not. evil asshole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) you think IT is non-fiction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(novel) The story follows seven children as they are terrorized by an evil entity called It, which exploits the fears of its victims to disguise itself while hunting its prey. It is a monstrous, shapeshifting predator that primarily appears in the form of Pennywise the Dancing Clown to attract its preferred prey of young children. —- you think this is based on a real thing that happened? if you answer yes to this my next question is: are you retaded? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 months ago Im not retaded but some would call me retarded (mainly because i am so smart that they are afraid of me, my IQ is 700) Contrary to popular belief these two are not the same. IT is real. I was there. And THAT is not how it happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago It's a weird and completely unnecessary scene narratively speaking but it's not even close to porn. It's one of many similar examples in King's writing, seems like the guy was molested as a kid and tried working through it with his writing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children) He was extremely coked out of his mind during those years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Famously has no memory of writing Tommy Knockers permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 months ago Probably just wrote up his dreams LOL permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Famously has no memory of writing Tommy Knockers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 months ago Probably just wrote up his dreams LOL permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago Let’s put it this way, enough people read IT that IT got three movies and a TV series. permalink fedilink source parent