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No. People do but just like how some European's work 3 jobs doesn't make it representative.
Now let's go back to my very first post addressed to you—perhaps now you will understand what I meant back then.
And I will answer you... using your very own words, literally:
We are not talking about capitalism right now, but about socialism!
Verstehst?
No you still do not understand please reread what I'm saying. Your fantasy of everyone or even most working 12 hours or 16 hours isn't real. Some Russians work 16 hours does it make sense to say Russians work 16hours a day? Obviously not.
Regarding my fantasies
https://itc.ua/blogi/dzhek-ma-ubezhden-chto-rabotat-nuzhno-po-12-chasov-v-sutki-shest-dney-v-nedelyu/
"Furthermore, Ma added that those wishing to join Alibaba must be prepared from the outset to work 12 hours a day."
A member of the CPC and a leading Party official—Jack Ma. To be honest, I listened to him back in 2019, and my jaw dropped at the time.
He was in Kyiv once; I saw him speak.
Ok now I know for sure you're twisting things on purpose. Best of luck to you.
Comrade, you have to understand that this might have been hyperbole.
He is a Party member—a billionaire. That is all I know about him. And I heard him speak when he was in Kyiv. He addressed Ukrainian youth and lectured them on how one ought to live.
He spoke about himself, claiming that he never takes a break—that even during his morning run or in the shower, he is constantly thinking about work. He even said that while sleeping, he wakes up with ideas and jots things down in a notebook.
He urged the Ukrainian youth to be just like him.
It is the truth; I am not twisting anything.
If this is true that this is all you know, you would probably benefit from the teaching of Chairman Mao: No investigation no right to speak.
If you had investigated you would have found that while true that due to the failings of Jiang and Hu a handful of capitalists were given party membership, that in reality it is in name only and they hold no power.
The one and only time they tried to exert power by pushing to loosen banking regulations, so they could offer consumer micro loans, the party made them disappear and restructured the company. Foreign capitalists cried about this for years because it showed the truth, capital has no real power in China.
Also since 2014 the faulty lines of Jiang and Hu are being corrected.
Did people in the USSR work 16-hour days?
I’ll go even further: officially, holding two jobs in the USSR was prohibited by law.
As you wish.
Maybe this is a language issue or maybe you have a vendetta and are twisting things on purpose but to be clear and go from the start again.
You said Chinese people work 16 hours a day (implying this is normal)
This is not true
You then said it was 12 hours
Again this is not true
While some people definitely do it is not an accurate representation to say "Chinese people work 12 hours a day" as 90+% work between 6 and 10 hours.
In the USSR even if technically not allowed some workers definitely worked 11+ hours be it to account for the extra labour necessary for rural upkeep or due to uneven enforcement.
Would it then be fair to say soviet workers worked 11+ hours? Obviously not. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?
If not I am sorry but my English is not good enough to explain this better.
Just chalk it up to the fact that I live in a combat zone. It’s easier that way, comrade!
Everything is absolutely driving me up the wall right now... and those two in the photo—they’re driving me crazy, too! Exploiters and soulless bastards! Just think about it: Marx must have turned in his grave when he saw that pair in the photo—a communist-oligarch and a ghoul who sold his soul to the devil. Lenin probably bolted out of the Mausoleum and ran to the pharmacy to get some sedatives... ))))
Sorry, comrade—I mean you no harm... and I wish China nothing but prosperity and a peaceful sky overhead!
That’s just a figure of speech meant to illustrate that Chinese people work a lot of overtime. I don't know exactly how many hours the Chinese work—sorry about that. But I do know for a fact that they work overtime. You can see this in the Russian Far East, where they work like robots—day and night. The locals are absolutely shocked by their productivity. I’m telling you this as a matter of fact, though I don't know exactly how many hours a day one would need to work to achieve that level of output—Russians certainly aren't capable of working like that.
In the USSR even if technically not allowed some workers definitely worked 11+ hours be it to account for the extra labour necessary for rural upkeep or due to uneven enforcement.
Would it then be fair to say soviet workers worked 11+ hours? Obviously not. Do you understand what I’m trying to say now?
Товарищ, let's put an end to this conversation, please. It's going nowhere!
I apologize once again; I meant you no harm—nothing but good. Peace be upon your home!