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It makes sense. Sedentary lives encourage muscle loss so protein excess encourages retention. Labourers don't grow a ton of muscle working once they peak and need more calories from fat and carbs.
People need to stop thinking that excess protein intake when sedentary will develop muscle. The bottom line is that excess calories consumed beyond total daily energy expenditure will cause weight gain. And not the muscular kind of weight. Protein has 4 calories per gram so it's not a freebie diet food that magically builds muscle. It only builds muscle if you exercise. Not sitting on yer arse.
They didn't say it would cause muscle gain, they said prevents muscle loss. Those are two very different claims
True, I did notice that & apologize for not acknowledging that part. But they also said "excess" protein consumption. Excess protein intake will cause fat gain because that's what excess calories from any source will do. Another commenter said that excess protein will be pooped out as long as the person is getting enough calories & nutrients from other sources, so that's something I've never heard before, but the bottom line is that excess calories equals fat gain.
Depends on how you are defining excess. Excess of 2000 calories yes. Excess of the daily reccomended amount of protein no not necessarily. It just depends on how the rest of their diet is portioned. You can eat 200g of protien a day and not exceed daily calorie allotments.
Really depends on their definition of excess
Protein is only used as fuel in extremis, it's a dirty fuel and the body will poop what it doesn't need for repair if there's enough other calories coming in. Also only some amino acids are biochemically amenable to conversion to energy, whereas the 4cal/g figure is from burning it all in air. Protein does not turn into cake, you can however argue the excess is wasted, but how much is excess for a given individual is a hard question.
You're quite right about needing stimulus to grow, but the statement was about maintenance.
You can turn protein into cake I've done it
Haha yes fat ass joke
But on a serious note
That reminds me of one lady a few years ago who came to realize that her protein shakes were actually literally cake batter repackaged & labeled as a lie. Big scandal she uncovered and she outed that company until they stopped their crimes.
Not crimes to do that here but wasteful why not use cat litter
Fair cop.
I do it about twice a week as I don't eat enough fiber.
Plus excess protein is bad for you. Your body just has to work harder to filter anything you don't use out.
Perhaps, but nobody in this thread argued it built muscle, only helps retain it if you're sedentary.
Yeah the current marketing obsession with protein just screams fad diet. Remember "super foods" where you try to throw certain nutrient dense ingredients into all of your food? Whatever happened to that?
The SuperFood fad is timeless wisdom. People who stick with that are golden.
Almonds, blueberries, quinoa, avocado, bone broth, walnuts, salmon, kale, spinach etc 💕
A cousin of mine who games all day started chugging protein for 3 years from 15-18. Dude became really bulky, like big, but not really muscular. Sometimes I genuinely can't tell if he's fat or 50.
I think a more correct term would be mass-growth, not muscle growth.
He's cultivating mass.
He’s fat he just has it evenly distributed. Evenly distributed fat is genetic not what he’s eating
I got four hours of exercise today sitting on my arse
Flex yer glutes while sitting. Pump em up, do 20 sets of 20 repetitions, and get some amusement out of people's reactions as they walk by seeing you riding your invisible horse on your chair.
Or ride a bicycle.
Oh! You weren't being facetious 😄 you really DO get 4 hours of exercise sitting on your arse.
I have an "Elliptigo SUB (stand-up bike)" It's got no seat. I love it so much.
I made a protein comment like this earlier too and people thought I was making a joke buy protein powder is mostly wheat protein and men can get weird and meat has lots of fat and men can get real weird and I've gwd some strange cakes requested by straight friends back when I had those
The didn’t say that. They say it encourages retention as opposed to muscle loss. It’s true. Get off your weird soapbox, your fact while true wasn’t relevant here.
That's not how it works. You can't eat your way out of muscle atrophy.
You kind of can. If you're in calorie deficit and not excersizing you muscles will atrophy a lot faster than if you're in surplus.
That atrophy would be induced by diet, not by sedentarism. It is no longer the case of the office worker population in general.
This right here. I would eat 3500-4000 Cals a day and LOSE 5 to 10 lbs over the course of field season.
When I worked a physical job outside in cold weather (sub-freezing temps) it was closer to 7-8,000 calories per day and I would still lose 5-10 lbs in 3 months.
I put it back on in the spring.
Then lost it again in the summer as the heat suppressed my appetite.
Then gained it back in the fall as the temperatures were more pleasant.
And repeat...
What kind of work? 8k calories is fucking insane. I can't even visualize that. That's like 8 big mac meals or something. how do you even fit that in you?
Mix of different physically demanding jobs while I was building up money to pay for college. Farmwork, construction etc during the day. Unloading package trucks for UPS was probably the most energy intensive in the evening. Hand unloading 2,100 packages per hour an emptying 3-4 trailers in 4-5 hours was one hell of an aerobic workout. On a normal day I was burning 4-4500K calories in the spring and fall from the high level of activity working 12-14 hours per day. I had strongly defined abs and built a lot of muscle mass.
Winter however was something else. It was a very cold, -10F to 10 for most of the winter. It takes a lot of food to just keep warm when you are in those temps all day. I was outside enough I had to keep my house cooler (50-55F) as my metabolism shifted into high gear.
Eating 4,500-5,000 calories is pretty easy. Larger portions at meals plus a few calorie dense snacks easily gets you there.
That extra 2000-3000 calories is hard. Half a package of oreos or a dozen donuts when I woke up starving at 2am was what I resorted too. Lots of carbs and fat.
I've never been big. Even now, at my largest, I'm 6' and 200 lbs. Spent a lot of time in the 165-175lb range.
I spent most of my days stomping though fens and forests, and digging holes when I got there. While it sounds scenic (and parts of it certainly were), I've huffed it through some of the shittiest terrain imaginable while carrying gear.
My least favorites were dense shrubby fens and old burns. A buddy and I spent 20 mins moving 100 m once lol.
I'd work 300 hr months from mid May until end of November and then go on rotation on the mines to recover with 240 hr months.
10 years of that was enough. I've been luxuriating behind a desk for the last 5 years. It's a nice way to retire from the field, and my hips and back are much happier