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[-] fox@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Ivermectin is a legitimate miracle antiparasitic
Early in the pandemic, some researchers showed you can neutralize COVID in vitro with ivermectin. The dose is more than enough to kill a human.
Trump announced he was taking hydroxychloroquine (antimalarial/antiparasitic) to prevent COVID infection during the pandemic
A group of crank doctors saw an angle and at a Senate hearing announced ivermectin as a wonder drug that prevents COVID infection entirely
Right-wing influencers like Joe Rogan took the ball and ran with it, infusing further anti-vaccine ideas into the movement
The sleeper class, who don't pay attention to medical news and get most of their understanding of the world from the influencers they follow, submersed in America's simmering broth of reactionary beliefs and distrust of authority, pick up the news that ivermectin prevents COVID during the Delta spike, when fears soared.
To a certain class of people, having their beliefs questioned is inherently hostile. Everyone telling them to not take ivermectin only makes them more stubborn about it. Ivermectin is also really easy to get a hold of because it's a common veterinary drug and pretty easy to find if you're rural.
Those people infect their social networks further with ivermectin bullshit, because people will trust their friends more than they trust authority.

And so, five years after we conclusively know ivermectin doesn't help with anything but parasites, you still find people who believe in its global efficacy, which has become greater and greater over time in reaction to more and more proof against it. Because the believers are stubborn reactionaries.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

The problem is that there are a bunch of studies that have proven that ivermectin can prohibit rna viruses from replicating in cell cultures to an impressive degree. The main problem is that ivermectin isn't very water soluble, and thus there is no way to deliver the drug to the targeted cells.

It's what happens when you develop assumptions based on a study when you don't really understand the relevant field of the study. It also makes it hard to disprove to people who have read studies that in their mind allude to it as an effective treatment.

Is ivermectin an effective way to controll the replication of rna viruses in a laboratory setting? Yes, amazingly so. Does that mean we can extrapolate upon that claim and assume it would be effective to treat humans? Absolutely not.

I imagine in the next 5-10 years ivermectine will be used as a treatment for rna viruses. However, that will require someone to find a way to turn it into an inhaled medication or some kind of nanosized medication that can be given intravenously.

[-] restless@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Don't forget the number of people who take ivermectin in response to getting sick and immediately start seeing an improvement of symptoms... Because they've been full of parasites for years or decades leading up to that point and getting rid of them improves their health, completely independent of the virus they caught. Then they associate ivermectin with feeling better so it had to be interacting with the disease they took it in response to.