▲ 463 ▼ New research shows weight loss is possible without GLP-1 (www.news-medical.net) submitted 4 months ago by golden@sh.itjust.works to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 192 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 months ago (4 children) People will do anything for vanity. Botox is contains one of the most potent toxins known on earth, and people will happily inject it directly into their face just for the chance of a slightly smoother face. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't want to lose weight for vanity. I want to live beyond my 50s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) I feel it. Living in an industrial society you really need to go against the grain to do it. As someone who has experienced substance dependency, it really is the same lizard brain urges. Avoiding hyperpalatable foods really helps. I cannot over eat oatmeal and yogurt, but bacon and hash browns absolutely. Carb portion control is really important for me, because I was eating easily over 400 calories of starches in a meal not counting anything else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (2 children) I forget the exact statistic, but it's like a spoonful of botulism toxin can kill millions of people. It really is potent. But the difference between poison/toxin and medicine is often just dosage. There are myriad, countless medicines to discover in toxins. The toxin of an animal for instance a snake, is not one toxin, it's hundreds, each with individual action. There is a reason the ancient greek symbol for medicine has two snakes on it. Anyway here's an old article on it in case anyone is interested. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/how-harnessing-the-powers-of-venom-could-lead-to-new-medicines *This is not the article I originally read as that was easily ten years prior but search engines and enshitified and have decided this is the closest they will give me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago There's only one snake on the medicine symbol. The two snake version is the one that represents Hermes. Everything else you said is correct though permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago Yes but these same people are often scrutinizing vaccine ingredient lists. permalink fedilink source parent [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) avoiding the sun is more important than lotion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if the lotion has SPF permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And sleep hanging upside down so the fat deposits in your face don't drop downwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago Botox is contains one of the most potent toxins known on earth, and people will happily inject it directly into their face just for the chance of a slightly smoother face And fentanyl can kill an entire city, but hospitals still keep it around for pain control. Diphenhydramine will make you hallucinate spiders everywhere, while you slowly die. But you can buy it over-the-counter to treat allergy symptoms. The foxglove flower can cause you to go into heart failure… But we use it to treat heart conditions. Dosis sola facit venenum, as the medical world likes to say. “The dose makes the poison.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't want to lose weight for vanity. I want to live beyond my 50s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) I feel it. Living in an industrial society you really need to go against the grain to do it. As someone who has experienced substance dependency, it really is the same lizard brain urges. Avoiding hyperpalatable foods really helps. I cannot over eat oatmeal and yogurt, but bacon and hash browns absolutely. Carb portion control is really important for me, because I was eating easily over 400 calories of starches in a meal not counting anything else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) I feel it. Living in an industrial society you really need to go against the grain to do it. As someone who has experienced substance dependency, it really is the same lizard brain urges. Avoiding hyperpalatable foods really helps. I cannot over eat oatmeal and yogurt, but bacon and hash browns absolutely. Carb portion control is really important for me, because I was eating easily over 400 calories of starches in a meal not counting anything else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (2 children) I forget the exact statistic, but it's like a spoonful of botulism toxin can kill millions of people. It really is potent. But the difference between poison/toxin and medicine is often just dosage. There are myriad, countless medicines to discover in toxins. The toxin of an animal for instance a snake, is not one toxin, it's hundreds, each with individual action. There is a reason the ancient greek symbol for medicine has two snakes on it. Anyway here's an old article on it in case anyone is interested. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/how-harnessing-the-powers-of-venom-could-lead-to-new-medicines *This is not the article I originally read as that was easily ten years prior but search engines and enshitified and have decided this is the closest they will give me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago There's only one snake on the medicine symbol. The two snake version is the one that represents Hermes. Everything else you said is correct though permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago Yes but these same people are often scrutinizing vaccine ingredient lists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago There's only one snake on the medicine symbol. The two snake version is the one that represents Hermes. Everything else you said is correct though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago Yes but these same people are often scrutinizing vaccine ingredient lists. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) avoiding the sun is more important than lotion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if the lotion has SPF permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And sleep hanging upside down so the fat deposits in your face don't drop downwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) avoiding the sun is more important than lotion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if the lotion has SPF permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if the lotion has SPF permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And sleep hanging upside down so the fat deposits in your face don't drop downwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago Botox is contains one of the most potent toxins known on earth, and people will happily inject it directly into their face just for the chance of a slightly smoother face And fentanyl can kill an entire city, but hospitals still keep it around for pain control. Diphenhydramine will make you hallucinate spiders everywhere, while you slowly die. But you can buy it over-the-counter to treat allergy symptoms. The foxglove flower can cause you to go into heart failure… But we use it to treat heart conditions. Dosis sola facit venenum, as the medical world likes to say. “The dose makes the poison.” permalink fedilink source parent