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Yeah so... that video is completely true and great and all... but is this video being put out by the same regime that murdered like 20 THOUSAND unarmed civilians?? Trump and his puppeteers are bad (Thiel, Heritage Foundation, Musk, Vought, Andreeson, etc.) but also the Iranian Regime is way worse. How about they all blow up each other, so the People can finally have their revolution?
It is not, actually. The group behind this is mostly a collective of around 9-10 Iran-based, Gen Z creators operating independent of the IRGC and/or official government of Iran. Their group/org name is "Explosive Media".
Lumping everyone in Iran as somehow part of "the regime" is kinda a shitty thing to do.
That, and Trump's ACA/Medicaid cuts are estimated to cause upwards of more than 50,000 premature deaths in the US, so you're also objectively wrong if going by numbers, alone.
In Trump's first term, U.S.-led coalition forces killed more than 29,000 non-combatants in Iraq and Syria.
But sure, the government fighting a CIA-backed, armed rebellion is worse than the government that--checks notes--drops tomahawk missiles on other countries' elementary schools.
About that...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd8jrd1vnyo
If you're ok having your domestic fascist regime being you're "customer" you can't really push back when people call your product propaganda for the fascist regime...
"But they offer me monies!" Isn't a good enough excuse to work for fascists with criticism for it.
Has more direct, violent control of their own people? Sure. Worse than trump and friends? Dunno bout that. Due to trump's malice and incompetence, he's getting people killed in the US as well as abroad. Plenty in Cuba are suffering and dying because of him right now. Africa too. They're both shit and I won't root for either. I certainly won't begrudge them killing our soldiers following illegal orders over there invading at least.
Yeah, Iran is super awful, but just the cuts to USAID are estimated to be responsible for at least half a million deaths.
The official stance of the Iranian Government is that ~3000 people were killed, ~2400 of which were civilians. Even if you choose to only believe the statement put out by the perpetrators, you still have to acknowledge that they killed multiple thousands of unarmed protestors.
If you think that shooting at civilian protestors, regardless of how much they were incited by the enemy, is in any way acceptable, then I don’t see how you can claim moral superiority.
The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.
Please decide yourself. The regime killed 20,000, 30,000, or 40,000? The USA is responsible for millions of deaths. I am sorry, but the USA is way worse than the Iranian regime.
Yup, and also USA helped cause this mess with Iran as well: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ohA_cqqJbyg
the iran regime killed one billion islamillion people. look, i have a source: www.blog.palantir.com/please-just-one-more-war-please-i-beg-you-613127
lol
Two things can both be bad.
Bad people can be right.
Saying "this video by the Iranian regime roasts the US regime" doesn't automatically mean that the Iranians are right. I see the rebuttal that there's an implicit boosting and platforming of this which normalizes it. I don't know which is worse. I think we'll need hindsight for that.
Mossad and CIA operatives kicked off a violent uprising in Iran in January, following economic protests, which targeted police and other protestors. It was a cynical attempt to encourage a crackdown so Western propaganda could use it as a basis for "humanitarian intervention"
It didn't work but that absurdly false death count has stuck around like a bad smell. Verified death count is 3,000 and many of those were police.
I heard it was 20 TRILLION!!
Sorry. I don’t buy into western propaganda. The 20,000 is clearly made up.
What’s the body count have to be to solicit an unfavorable opinion? Like, can you abide a few? Gloss over a few dozen? Do you require evidence of each kill? How many people does a theocratic authoritarian government have to murder for you to be like “yeah, fuck your regime”? Don’t conflate “fuck the Ayatollah and the IRGC” with “go America”. It’s not difficult to be disgusted with two fundies leaving a trail of bodies in their wake as they argue over oil and which delivery boy made up a better version of God.
They did murder civilian protestors, it was not anywhere close to 20,000
here we have another liberal manufacturing consent for the war and thinking republicans are the problem in america
Lol that shit is hilarious, like people who actually live here can possibly forget ALL the Republican political messaging in support of this administration, its stupid ass wars, raping kids, hiding its crimes, and killing/marginalizing/deporting anyone who disagrees or even just happens to be brown.
Do you have any idea how many fucking red caps and pro-Trump signs I have to see every day? Do you really think your limp words hold a candle to all that crowing about the Republicans "hurting the right people" finally?
"here we have another liberal thinking republicans are the problem in america"
YEAH! I ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DO!
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-iran-greatest-adversary-trump-election.html
Here we have another my way or the highway extremist who only takes what they want to hear from a statement instead of the intent... or the actual content of the words.
Actually no, that was the previous Iranian regime (before they killed the Ayatollah). This is the new Iranian regime (with the younger Khamenei).
Maybe he's not a murderous tyrant like his dad? I suppose it's worth giving him an opportunity to build his own legacy without his father's baggage, considering the circumstances.
If he ends up murdering his own civilians too, then fuck him. But so far he hasn't done that.
the regime is the same. It's all the same people, even though the top guy is his son
Okay, so the Iranian civilians are being murdered by the Iranian government and the US government.
Can we stop arguing about which one's worse and maybe start thinking about how do we stop both of those regimes from murdering civilians?