▲ 939 ▼ Lemmy's political discourse when Republicans gutted the Voting Rights Act yesterday: (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 473 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) Needs to be updated to add the Iranian flag to the GOP track. Man, do I wish there were a realistic way to choose that bottom track! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) it's simple, you just don't vote for the genocidal warmonger party, then if enough people do that you win blowing up/ derailing the trolly also works permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) And there's no viable way to do that under the current system, which is why the track isn't connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* i love how you concede that the system is so dysfunctional you can't even oppose a genocide under it and simultaneously expect me to to believe that individuals voting (or not) is somehow making a meaningful difference in the outcome permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s simple, you just don’t vote for the genocidal warmonger party, then if enough people do that you win THAT'S NOT HOW VOTING WORKS! People have to vote FOR the OTHER party, or else the genocidal warmonger party wins anyway! You are saying shit that is both moronic and factually untrue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there's a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. I voted for them last election and don't regret it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there’s a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. No there fucking wasn't! Not one that could win! You're a goddamned liar and you are helping the fascists! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) it's simple, you just don't vote for the genocidal warmonger party, then if enough people do that you win blowing up/ derailing the trolly also works permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) And there's no viable way to do that under the current system, which is why the track isn't connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* i love how you concede that the system is so dysfunctional you can't even oppose a genocide under it and simultaneously expect me to to believe that individuals voting (or not) is somehow making a meaningful difference in the outcome permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s simple, you just don’t vote for the genocidal warmonger party, then if enough people do that you win THAT'S NOT HOW VOTING WORKS! People have to vote FOR the OTHER party, or else the genocidal warmonger party wins anyway! You are saying shit that is both moronic and factually untrue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there's a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. I voted for them last election and don't regret it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there’s a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. No there fucking wasn't! Not one that could win! You're a goddamned liar and you are helping the fascists! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) And there's no viable way to do that under the current system, which is why the track isn't connected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* i love how you concede that the system is so dysfunctional you can't even oppose a genocide under it and simultaneously expect me to to believe that individuals voting (or not) is somehow making a meaningful difference in the outcome permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago* i love how you concede that the system is so dysfunctional you can't even oppose a genocide under it and simultaneously expect me to to believe that individuals voting (or not) is somehow making a meaningful difference in the outcome permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child) it’s simple, you just don’t vote for the genocidal warmonger party, then if enough people do that you win THAT'S NOT HOW VOTING WORKS! People have to vote FOR the OTHER party, or else the genocidal warmonger party wins anyway! You are saying shit that is both moronic and factually untrue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there's a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. I voted for them last election and don't regret it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there’s a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. No there fucking wasn't! Not one that could win! You're a goddamned liar and you are helping the fascists! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there's a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. I voted for them last election and don't regret it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there’s a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. No there fucking wasn't! Not one that could win! You're a goddamned liar and you are helping the fascists! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) you know there’s a non-genocidal warmonger party which could also be voted for. No there fucking wasn't! Not one that could win! You're a goddamned liar and you are helping the fascists! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) there's no way anyone could help the fascists more than an 'opposition' party which routinely fails to actually oppose them if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn't spend so much time punching left permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional. if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child) supporting them uncritically your religious conviction First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot! You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically. maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it! You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it. are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged. I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged. I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation! I don’t endorse any of that Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) me: the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism you: I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them. you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are! That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it. permalink fedilink source parent
