grue comments on Lemmy's political discourse when Republicans gutted the Voting Rights Act yesterday:

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

there’s no way anyone could help the fascists more than an ‘opposition’ party which routinely fails to actually oppose them

Yes there is. By actively discouraging opposition to the fascists, which is what you're doing. You are literally delusional.

if the democrats had any principles and actually opposed fascism they wouldn’t spend so much time punching left

I'm not even saying you're wrong about the Democrats; I'm saying you're wrong about motherfucking GAME THEORY and MATH! Even acknowledging what you just wrote, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR THEM ANYWAY!

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[+] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

supporting them uncritically

your religious conviction

First of all, anyone who isn't an actual illiterate moron can see that first statement is blatantly not true. Second, you are not fucking entitled to accuse me of religion, you hateful bigot!

You have been doing nothing in this thread but peddling disinformation, lies, libel, and now intolerance of lack of religion. You need to be banned.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

people insisting on vote-scolding over a year after the election are absolutely supporting them uncritically.

maybe blind faith would be a better phrasing, but 'hateful bigot' is a bit hyperbolic. after all you're the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

after all you’re the one advocating for the people who spent years arming a genocidal ethnostate and suppressing all criticism of it

You continue to lie. I'm the one advocating AGAINST doing things that help the people actively egging the genocide on, and perpetrating huge numbers of other atrocities while they're at it!

You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it.

You endorse every atrocity because the lesser-evil candidate didn't pass your demented purity test. That is what actual fucking evil looks like.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

You, on the other hand, are apparently A-OK with murdering Iranians, Venezuelans, anti-fascist Americans, and too many other thousands upon thousands of other people to even keep track of on top of even more Palestinians than would've been killed under the ONLY alternative. And you're apparently likewise A-OK with destroying democracy, the rule of law, the global environment, and everything else while you're at it. You apparently love corruption. You apparently love child rape. You even apparently love genocide, because your actions do not match your words and the actual result of your actions resulted in MORE of it.

are you okay? you're getting kind of unhinged.

I don't endorse any of that, my vote made zero fucking difference in the election. the democrats eating shit is their own fault and nobody elses. you are indistinguishable from a religious zealot lmao

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

are you okay? you’re getting kind of unhinged.

I'm sick and tired of people like you ruining the future of my children (let alone everybody else's) through your sheer fucking stupidity. And you're still trying to make it worse by continuing to spread your disinformation!

I don’t endorse any of that

Yes, you do! YES YOU DO! That's what refusing to practice harm reduction does: it endorses the harm. That blood absolutely is on your hands, whether you admit it to yourself or not!

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

me:

the democrats have no principles and don't actually oppose fascism

you:

I’m not even saying you’re wrong about the Democrats

the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism, the only people responsible for their failures are them.

you can blame me all you like, but i think the people enabling a feckless opposition in the face of climate catastrophe and rising fascism are the ones fucking things up for your kids.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

the democrats are not credible opponents of fascism

And yet there is no other alternative that actually exists, so we're stuck with them, credible or not! The only -- only! -- way forward that has even a slim chance of success is to try to get better people to win Democratic primaries, not to suicidally punish them in the general election. At that point, they're the least-bad option no matter how feckless they are!

That's reality in accordance with the cold hard math of game theory, and nobody gives a fuck if you like it.

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