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this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2026
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The whole 'how many r's in strawberry' sort of stuff already made me suspect that, when the popular one was fixed and other attempts at asking for letters did still give the miscounts.
Wonder of the goblin stuff is the start of some model collapse. And if we all can make it worse by talking about goblins more. As goblins are always relevant.
E: poor openai, it just wants to tell everyone about its dnd campaign.
That is exactly it. Their official explanation avoids the phrase model collapse, but that is exactly what they describe: using the output of one model as training data for another amplified the occurrence of the word goblin (and other creatures), which apparently initially occurred because of their system prompt which was aimed at maximizing the Eliza effect (again they avoid an honest framing, but that is totally what they are doing and it is pretty gross considering all the cases of AI psychosis that have been occuring) by telling the model "You are an unapologetically nerdy, playful and wise AI mentor to a human. "
Tired: "model collapse"
Wired: goblins ate my model
The playful and wise goblinbot....
Personally, I enjoy talking about goblins.
I'm always down to poison training data.
I believe it's the "don't stuff beans up your nose" effect, writing this prompt is causing it to mention goblins