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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's legal to spy on your employees in USA?

I'm beginning to think all their tinfoil conspiracy theories aren't completely baseless..

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why would it be tinfoil? The us culture is very much about hardcore capitalism. They don't even have unions or proper vacations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, our ~800 people company has unions too. But they don't do sh#t for people. And I mean real sh#t. Except for once a year they have a meeting with free sandwiches they eat and then go home. Another year of unions well done... apparently by them.

But my friends working in big technical/industrial corp say their unions are quite strong and they at least care for employees a bit.

So yeah, there're unions to this day, but their meaning is not met everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure your union isn't helping? No union is going to be run by miracle workers, but that doesn't mean they don't improve conditions. I can't say for sure, but I suspect this sentiment is part of why union membership fell apart in the 20th century "well my union doesn't do anything for me anyways."

Like democracy, unions do require some upkeep via people stepping up. If you don't like how your union is performing, you could consider becoming a rep (admittedly based on my limited understanding as a non-union employee).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, I am pretty sure. I know most people there personally. It's kind of sad it even exists, pretty much waste of money in this case.

//edit: it's virtually impossible to become rep in this case. The company is like family business (not real family, but everyone knows everyone since forever kind of thing) and it is like stalemate for everyone both in union and in management. Unions know they won't do anything without trying hard (and they won't because most of them are nearing retirement and they want their peace) and management know unions won't cause them problems, because they're what they are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not true on either count. We just don't have enough unions and only some of us have good vacation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they lack personal freedom in USA, it's just the way it is. Freedom means it's ok for your boss to spy on you, they're free to do that and you are free to be spied on. Oh and they get to own a gun which makes them like really really cool and tough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depends what mean by owning a gun but some people are so insecure about their personal safety that they probably want one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Land of the Free, my dude!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol ever heard of NSA? Employees are nothing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The NSA are not allowed to spy on their own citizens. That's why they use data of friendly countries' agencies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And yet it’s been proven they’ve been doing it anyway with no real changes or outcry afterwards

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It seems like they collect the data from big tech and not directly from the users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Just bycatch we accidentally got while investigating stuff in Microsoft & Facebook".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mfw you think mass surveillance is so scary

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed it is. There are limits, but not many.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk but it's a work computer I suppose

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In that case I think it's mostly fine