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[-] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Thats why I live in a US city and not the suburbs, totally doable

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah doable if u can afford to spend 5k monthly on rent alone lol

[-] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lol, yea thats what we all pay in rent, holy fuck dude

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In like, 2 or 3 major US cities maybe, and even then you're still having to deal with abysmal, anti-pedestrian infrastructure.

The rest of the country it is incredibly dangerous and sprawled out to the point that walkability is infeasible.

And this is all assuming someone can even remotely afford to live within city limits with how prohibitively expensive CoL is getting

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Drive up the cost of energy enough and those suburbs will be abandoned as more people move into cities.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, suburbs abandoned for cities that are entirely built around car-centric infrastructure.

The walkability of the US is abysmal everywhere except for maybe a handful of major metropolitan areas, and even then those are lacking.

Also, assuming that people can even afford to live within the city if they can't even afford to live in the suburbs of that city. More likely people will be pushed out to rural towns with lower CoL and become even more isolated and thus car dependent

[-] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

You just proved why cities are better than suburbs

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, cities are massively better than suburbs. I never denied this.

Still doesn't change the fact that living within the city is becoming increasingly prohibitive due to capitalist greed nor that, even if they are better than suburbs, the cities within the US are massively lacking in pedestrian focused infrastructure.

[-] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

Then the suburbs are even worse off, you make no sense.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My point never disagreed with the fact that the suburbs were worse off than cities. Just because the suburbs are worse than the cities in the US doesn't discount that the cities are still lacking in pedestrian infrastructure and that walkability is something that is few and far between in the US, even among its cities, nor that being able to live in the city is a privilege that is only available to those who can afford such a luxury.

So the claim that "it is doable" is shortsighted. For the vast majority in the US it most certainly is not "doable" due to systemic forces beyond their immediate control.

And the insinuation that it is equivalent to an experience to living abroad in places with far better pedestrian infrastructure, such as Japan and Germany like the users above, and not an objective downgrade is absurd as well. You can live in a US city and it would still be leagues worse than those in the countries mentioned; so it isn't doable to have an equivalent experience in that regard either.

Your claim that it is "totally doable" is what makes no sense.

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