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Elektrek: "Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night" (electrek.co)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Interesting, you wrote an entire dissertation on why you think this is all a false flag about Full Self Driving, but it seems to be mostly anecdotal or what you think is happening. Being a “software by trade” isn’t enough to face the facts that something fishy is 100% going on with Tesla’s autopilot system.

“The last time NHTSA released information on fatalities connected to Autopilot, in June 2022, it only tied three deaths to the technology. Less than a year later, the most recent numbers suggest 17 fatalities, with 11 of them happening since May 2022. The Post notes that the increase in the number of crashes happened alongside a rapid expansion of Tesla’s "Full Self-Driving" software from around 12,000 vehicles to almost 400,000 in about a year”

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44185487/report-tesla-autopilot-crashes-since-2019/#

You claim the timeline is important here and this is all post-2022.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tbh the other side is also anecdotal. There's no stats here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

What's fishy about it? You realize 40,000 people die every year from car accidents, meaning 110 die every single day, and you're referencing 17 fatalities spread out over a few years as some big crisis. This tech (from any manufacturer) isn't going to prevent 100% of accidents, and there's not much you can do when drivers willingly drive their car into the side of a semi just like they did before this technology existed.

I won't argue AP, FSD, or any other system doesn't have it's issues but most of these responses are overblown sensationalism.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not a "Software by trade" that was a typo. Believe it or not I wrote that entire thing on mobile.

Correlation does not equal causation. Tesla sold a huge number more vehicles in the past 2 years than ever before. Also in 2019,2020 and part of 2021 not a lot of people were driving due to the pandemic.

And, yes, a lot of the first incident I covered there was mostly anecdotal or what I think is happening. Importantly, what I think is happening as someone with years and tens of thousands of miles of experience using FSD beta. I do not have the facts and also importantly, neither do you. I am interested to see what comes out of that court case, but from where I sit I do not think FSD was involved at all.

Please let me know where I have misrepresented facts, I will either correct them or cite sources.

Again, Teslas come with a factory installed 360 dashcam. It records all the time. Where are all of the videos of these FSD related incidents?