▲ 448 ▼ Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” (road.cc) submitted 4 months ago by resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 57 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36974628
[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 116 points 4 months ago (3 children) Expecting people to not sabotage the rolling death machines "too high a bar" permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago I was just going to say that the roads are for humans, not machines, but this is a better idea. permalink fedilink source parent [–] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago All I'm gonna say is if you put a traffic cone on the hood of one it will refuse to move because they avoid cones at all costs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 4 months ago (3 children) But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers. Maybe you're thinking of Tesla who's significantly worse than human drivers because they ditched LIDAR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children) But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers. ... says research paid for by Waymo. I know critical thinking skills are in short supply these days, but come on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 4 months ago That's not critical thinking. It's making an assumption based on bias. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elextra@literature.cafe 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I made a previous post about this. Anecdotally, I've seen numerous human drivers hit pedestrians in SF. Number of Waymos hitting humans that I have seen in local news or in person, none. They are very very conservative with their driving in SF but can still navigate SFs complex streets (I.e. when a doordash is parallel parked theyre very good at driving around them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why you have to standardize the statistics. Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road. Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago The only groups saying that are Waymo and Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryndos@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago Sofas are even safer, but sofas should fuck off out of the bike lane too. And out of the bus lane too, but that's never going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago I was just going to say that the roads are for humans, not machines, but this is a better idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago All I'm gonna say is if you put a traffic cone on the hood of one it will refuse to move because they avoid cones at all costs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 4 months ago (3 children) But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers. Maybe you're thinking of Tesla who's significantly worse than human drivers because they ditched LIDAR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wpb@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children) But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers. ... says research paid for by Waymo. I know critical thinking skills are in short supply these days, but come on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 4 months ago That's not critical thinking. It's making an assumption based on bias. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elextra@literature.cafe 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I made a previous post about this. Anecdotally, I've seen numerous human drivers hit pedestrians in SF. Number of Waymos hitting humans that I have seen in local news or in person, none. They are very very conservative with their driving in SF but can still navigate SFs complex streets (I.e. when a doordash is parallel parked theyre very good at driving around them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why you have to standardize the statistics. Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road. Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago The only groups saying that are Waymo and Google. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bryndos@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago Sofas are even safer, but sofas should fuck off out of the bike lane too. And out of the bus lane too, but that's never going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wpb@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children) But Waymo taxis are demonstrably safer than human drivers. ... says research paid for by Waymo. I know critical thinking skills are in short supply these days, but come on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 4 months ago That's not critical thinking. It's making an assumption based on bias. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elextra@literature.cafe 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I made a previous post about this. Anecdotally, I've seen numerous human drivers hit pedestrians in SF. Number of Waymos hitting humans that I have seen in local news or in person, none. They are very very conservative with their driving in SF but can still navigate SFs complex streets (I.e. when a doordash is parallel parked theyre very good at driving around them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why you have to standardize the statistics. Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road. Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 4 months ago That's not critical thinking. It's making an assumption based on bias. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I made a previous post about this. Anecdotally, I've seen numerous human drivers hit pedestrians in SF. Number of Waymos hitting humans that I have seen in local news or in person, none. They are very very conservative with their driving in SF but can still navigate SFs complex streets (I.e. when a doordash is parallel parked theyre very good at driving around them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why you have to standardize the statistics. Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road. Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why you have to standardize the statistics. Humans are responsible for more total pedestrian crashes than robo taxis simply because there's more human drivers on the road. Although the standardized statistics agree with your anecdotal observations in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you are trying to defend human drivers so much. I share the road whit them every day and I hope to fucking God they all get replaced with robots soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago I'm not trying to defend human drivers; I'm all for all human drivers being replaced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago The only groups saying that are Waymo and Google. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bryndos@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago Sofas are even safer, but sofas should fuck off out of the bike lane too. And out of the bus lane too, but that's never going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent