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I am in an unusually altered state. I normally don't essaypost like this.
This is somewhat similar to India which uses a lot of 7.62x39mm AK-203s and 7.62x51mm SiG-716, distributing them to different units. However, India is primarily concerned with protecting its borders rather than preparing for hypothetical military force projections so they have a more stable idea of what weapons will be used where.
For the US I still do not think making battle rifle specific units is a good idea. It presumes a fully battle rifle equipped unit is ideal in a given situation. I don't think that's right. While 5.56mm can struggle at 600-800m (depending on the weapon specifics, ammo specifics, and who you ask), the presumption that even in the mountains of Afghanistan that this was a debilitating problem is overblown. Full power MGs and DMRs can work on the longer ranges, and inside of the extreme ranges intermediate caliber just gets better and better compared to full power for a service rifle. It is not as if every firefight in Afghanistan was at 800m.
Now, something that makes sense and has been done in the past is creating accurized 5.56mm rifles for units specializing in longer ranges. The USMC made the SAM-R and the US Army's 3rd ID made the SDM-R. Both of them were 20 inch barrel, M16A4 derived weapons that were modified, assembled with care, and given appropriate optics. If you want a "Mountaineer" outfitted unit, such a rifle makes a lot of sense as the service rifle as it prioritizes range without sacrificing ammo and parts compatibility with everyone else, and those rifles are a lot more usable inside of longer distances than a battle rifle would be. And still assuming this hypothetical unit still has all the full power DMRs and MGs backing up the smaller rifles.
This was literally the TO&E in Vietnam. In WW2, there was a squad automatic rifle (usually the BAR) organic to squads. After WW2, the US first tried the idea of M14 equipped troops supported by an M15/M14E2 squad automatic rifle taking the place of the BAR. When the M14 was replaced by the M16, the squad automatic rifle role was removed because hey every soldier could do that job in a pinch with their controllable, full auto service rifle. This looked good on paper, but eventually resulted in the M249 SAW and that role coming back because a weapon that could be the base of fire organic in the squads was important. (This is partially btw why I am convinced the USMC is going to pull their M249s out of storage the second they deploy for force-on-force in the future)
If you are dismounted a lot, there's also a half decent chance you are on the strained end of the supply chain. You want to be able to carry more ammo per pound, not less. Suppressing fire is how firefights go. It is how people are trained. It is how they will fight. Dave Grossman is a fraud. The idea sometimes floated that soldiers with less ammo (because they are carrying bigger full power rounds) will compensate by firing more accurately and using fewer rounds is the opposite of pretty much every study I know of and of doctrine developed from studies and experience. More ammo is good, and a soldier can carry more intermediate ammo than full power ammo.
Guided 40mm exists...somewhere. The Raytheon Pike was hyped for a while. What I mean by these rounds not materializing is, that they are essentially cryptids. People have photos of them, and maybe even they'll drunkenly tell you a story of how they touched one once, but they aren't just out and about. If a US infantry unit deployed tomorrow, none of the grenadiers would have any.
... well I honestly don't know what to say other than 'holy shit, how do you know all this, off the top of your head?'
Uh.
Yeah.
Other than that:
No clue who Dave Grossman is, I am not an... adherent of Grossman thought, but uh yeah, what you've said makes sense, suppressive fire is... much more about the number of rounds, than their 'lethality'.
Also: Hope whatever you are altered on has a smooth edge to it, I would perhaps recommend chamomile tea?
Traveling and absorbing from people who knew a lot more.
The Dave Grossman aside wasn't a shot at you, it was more for those who know. He wrote a book where his conclusion was that soldiers in war intentionally miss. His methods for gathering data were sketchy to say the least. His name or book seemingly inevitably appears on comments any time the number of rounds fired vs kills in war comes up. It's a very reductionist idea that appeals to the sensibilities of what I might imperfectly call "mainstream Reddit culture".
Thanks but that isn't the direction I'm heading.
Ah, you're heading to Bat Country then.
Well, have a good trip!