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Our totally normal Nintendo DS ad is ready to print, boss! (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 56 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Sex sells, especially to teenage boys. The main demographic for video game ads is teenage boys. Hence the prevalence of ads like these.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Which was a completely arbitrary unforced error from a marketing perspective, setting back acceptance of video gaming as a ubiquitous thing everyone does by decades, pigeonholing them into a thing that only maladjusted angry young men do. You have the asinine marketing choices of the 90s to partially thank for the toxic exclusionary culture that still exists in many games today. They could have had every kid, girl or boy, cool or nerd, playing video games in 1995 but patriarchy said no.

    Ironically, it was counter-counter-counter culture, reacting to the vestiges of Reaganite pearl-clutching that still wafted through life and politics of the time. Same influence that inspired "badly behaved" cartoons like The Simpsons and South Park. Video game advertising just leaned into that last counter too hard and landed in misogyny.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    You're totally right. The reason it happened was because video game systems were considered "toys" back in the day, and the marketing for toys was generally extremely polarized back then, all part of the social conditioning for patriarchy. Girls got to play with baby dolls, tea sets and toys inspired by domestic labor such as cooking and cleaning, and boys got to play with toys themed around heavy machinery, sports, combat/war and so on, all to prepare, socialize and condition them for the gender roles they were/are expected to perform in society.

    Early video games were often sports or combat/war themed, so they became toys for boys, and ended up in a positive feedback loop. I would guess that the reason that sports and war themed video games were developed was because the people in charge of developing the games were also mainly men.

    Women were significantly sidelined from computers and technology in most of the world around the time video games were being developed despite being extremely significant in the early history of computers. Whole workforces of women extremely competent with programming were fired and replaced with men who had no idea what they were doing in places, setting technological advancement back significantly.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Honestly looking at kids adverts now vs my childhood in the 80s-90s I think toys are more gendered now. More of them and poorer quality. Lego being the prime example, used to be entirely ungendered.

    Edit: uk if that makes a difference

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Honestly, I think you're misremembering, which is totally fair tbh, it's been a while and you were a kid!

    Since I'm a loser with nothing better to do on a Saturday, I did a little research by watching LEGO commercials from the 80s and 90s, and there are dozens of depictions of boys playing with LEGO, and the relatively rare depictions of girls playing with them are for sets clearly designed for girls, such as Belville and Paradisa.

    If you check out this video from around 2:36 onwards, you can really clearly see the differences in how LEGO was marketed to girls, and to boys.

    There's a whole jingle that went across the decades with the phrase "he's a lego maniac", and most LEGO sets fall into traditional "boys toys" categories (trains, police, knights, etc.). Even ads for the generic core sets with just the simple colored blocks depicted boys playing with them.

    Interestingly, though, almost all of the Duplo commercials depict both boys and girls playing with the toys together, but even those sets are quite gendered - doll houses for girls, for example.

    I don't think I've seen a toy advert for a good 15 years or so, except for the infamous a man has fallen into the river in LEGO city commercial, I honestly have no real idea what they're like now, but they were very gendered back in the day for sure!

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    That hasn’t been true in a while. In fact I would go as far as say as the main demographic for video game ads today is middle-aged moms who played Candy Crush.

    Pretty much since the Wii casual gamers have been the bigger market.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Which is probably why gaming ads don't look like gaming ads used to anymore.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    since the Wii

    I mean the iPhone came out a year later…

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    The App Store didn’t come out until the summer of 2008. Before that the iPhone could play a primitive version of Bejeweled and that was about it. Also, if I recall correctly, they were well into the iPhone 4 before they even started to come close to Wii sales numbers. The 4 being the first that worked on carriers that weren’t AT&T or that used the same bands in other countries.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    That’s fair. Forgot about the delay on the App Store. Still I’d say the pipeline of Wii gamer to iPhone gamer is pretty small. Maybe more on the developer side than customer.

    Phones put gaming consoles in everyone’s hand and made non gamers into casual gamers.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Candy Crush, casual games, and their ads don't exist in gaming magazines sold wrapped in plastic bags. The main demographic for game sales is casual players. The main demographic for the ads is teenage boys (or basement dwelling manchildren). They're different markets.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Clearly you haven’t watched any late night TV recently.

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