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General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 17
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Im thinking of joning a party here in italy but doing reasearch makes stuff so confusing, apparently there's like 10 communist or leftwing parties here and i when i try to find out about them i keep finding leftist infighting and mudslinging, it's been very troubling, ive also got the problem that i dont live near anywhere near a building of any of them
Are they all Maoist parties? The infighting over small issues is definitely a pattern from what little I have read on a few Maoist movements in other countries (I am joking about them being Maoist parties, because I doubt Italy has many Maoists).
I don't know about maoist parties in italy but i know that a lot of italian leftists are trotskyists, unfortunately they're also the major marxist publishers so i got some of my books from them; italy has a massive compatible left problem to the point that ordinary people are more marxist than them/hj
Start by eliminating any parties that support the war on Iran and then any with signs of homophobia or trasnsphobia, any that are Pro-rojave and then the pro ukraine ones. I'd be surprised if you have nay options left after that.
What is the political situation in Italy? I only know that there is a far-right candidate or something, but I know very little about Italian politics in general (because I hardly know much about anything in modern Italy).
Things are getting pushed more to the left, though a lot of people are stopping at liberalism I can definitely say that I've seen a lot more Italian leftists than say leftists in the U.S., recently the current party that had direct ties to fascism and an ex prime minister of Italy called Berlusconi (Italian Ronald Reagen, member of the Mafia, was a member of a openly fascist party) just lost a referendum that sought to weaken the justice system because they were getting caught and possibly charged for shit (some of it related to Epstein from what I know), which is the first time in a long time that the Italian right lost in votes, another thing that is pushing people left is the situation in Palestine, our current prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, is a trump and Israel bootlicker and she is wildly unpopular right now, so while things aren't perfect for the left here at least we're possibly getting rid of a fascist party being in power, though we'll have to wait for the upcoming elections for that.
It's also important to note Italy's political history, the constitution was by a large part written by communists and had one of the largest communist parties in the world during the cold war though it distanced itself from the soviet union taking a more moderate route, during this time the right wing parties that held power collaborated with the CIA to get rid of communism in Italy by doing a number of terrors attacks and blaming it on the left, which for a while worked, but recently the sentiment amongst a lot of Italians is moving to the left, albeit a more moderate, words like communism and socialism are getting more normalised which is a good thing.
I hope the elections go to your favor (how do Italian elections work? American elections are two-party redistribution ceremonies, but other countries have systems where more than two parties actually get influence in the central government). Who are you going to vote for?
Shame that most are stopping at liberalism, but that is to be expected. What communist parties specifically are there in Italy (names and their type of communism are what I want to know)? Do any catch your eye?
A good litmus test would be asking about Domenico Losurdo.