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I can’t believe there are real people out there that believe Hexbear of all things has done measurable damage to the Democrats. The sidebar says we’re at 724 users/day, there’s no way a niche shitposting community on a reddit clone swayed opinions on the Harris campaign even a single point. These people have completely bought into the helpless act the Dems put on and it’s sad.
Liberals truly believe politics is like Goku charging the spirit bomb. If you don't offer enough intangible support like raw belief, you end up destroying everything. They think there's a god of liberalism that we're harming while we're simultaneously giving spiritual energy to the demonic God of Russia.
Liberals believe in this because they're so detached from political input they've decided politics must necessarily operate through spectacle and reaction. If you react incorrectly, it changes the nature of the spectacle, is how they see it.
Every leftist, when asked if/why we support China or any AES state, should simply say "I don't support them, I like them. Unless the power of my opinion is some kind of real prayer, it makes exactly 0 difference"
Do more praxis.
Organizing my local fishers' community and proclaiming "In the name of Xi!" like a medieval herald
Look, I was trying to be playful in my first response but I'm watching this get up votes so I'm just gonna be blunt. If you feel the need to say this, perhaps you're better off just not calling yourself a leftist? Solidarity is a core concept of being leftist and if even the aesthetics of supporting AES states to a fucking
is that much of a burden, maybe being "leftist" isn't for you?
Just hold the line, hexbear. It's not rocket science.
You're right, to the extent that one can exercise solidarity and be materially useful to the interests of the working classes of the entire world, one should do so. And there are real material links between helping organize and advance the positions of workers in, say, Guatemala, and the project of Chinese socialism. We shouldn't shy away from saying as such, so yes, my previous message is not universally correct. It is correct in the context of raising money for Palestinians and someone interjecting with "you guys support Chinese authoritarianism though" because in that context, it really is salient and relevant to say that nothing Hexbear has done as a community materially^[By "materially," in the loose way I'm using it in this sentence, I roughly mean to that extent and in the same order of significance of the previously stated fundraising drive] impacts China.
I appreciate your acknowledgement, but hard disagree at this. Because at that point you've now engaged in their propagation of harmful stereotypes and have ceded the point to them. "Oh, you say so and so beats his wife? Well I don't support him, but I still like him." Fine you're not contributing to impacting them materially, but you are now contributing to harming them. Debatable whether we need to be directly engaging with these assholes at all, but if you are it sure as hell shouldn't be to appease them. Our job as leftist is to set an example and build the future. Not getting all wishy washy so the libs like us.
I’m gonna be real I unironically and uncritically support everything China does, because even despite their current deficiencies, it is the one last hope for civilization in the world
Kamala/Biden going "GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY!" and its all suburbanite whites and nazi tattoo-totting mercenaries who are the ones raising their arms
I think part of this is also the sheer prevalence of media people in the Democratic party. It's a party full of people with chronic media-brain.
"Still a net negative on society" and it's literally donating $1,500 to Gazans vs. thinking we're annoying, very equal things, lemmitors and not a totally privileged position
And the people who're saying they did more than us by voting for Kamala (100% confident they didn't donate a dollar to palestinians btw) is just cope
Even if you are willing to accept that she would have been better for Palestinians than Trump, she lost! If all someone did to help Palestine is vote for her, then they have literally accomplished nothing!
And if you’re only taking voting into account and doing a very rough “how many people are dying in Gaza” as the metric, as bad as Trump has been the sound position would be that voting for Trump was harm reduction (edited to avoid implying people here voted for Trump, which I doubt literally anyone did).
Israel has, on average, killed less people in Gaza per day under Trump than they did under Biden. That remains true. This basically says nothing about Trump it’s just to point out that Joe Biden was a genocidal maniac who loved killing Palestinians more than anything in this world including his own party’s ability to win elections.
You wouldn't happen to have a source for that, would you? I'd be interested to see how it compares and it'd be useful for discussion.
Unfortunately that’s probably due to the fact that there have been less people to kill rather than any policy difference.
Also you should probably rephrase your first paragraph. They’d probably latch onto it and think “see they voted for trump” even though you’re probably just using their definition of voting for trump, which is anyone besides Kamala.
That's not really how voting works. Just because whatever you voted for lost, doesn't mean that the vote didn't do anything.
What does it accomplish then?
It's a signal that you're willing to give up your principles in exchange for what the candidate supports. So by voting for Kamala "most lethal military in the world" "the difference between me and Joe Biden is that I'm not Joe Biden" Harris, one helps Palestinians in the sense of giving them the security in knowledge that 100% of viable political parties and their supporters are A-OK with their slaughter. This is a buff.
First of all, in most democratic systems, funding is often decided by reaching a certain vote count. Second, in most functioning democracies, votes on stuff is not actually neatly split amongst party lines, so a different distribution of seats might change certain results on certain votes. Thirdly, often there's another vote threshold than 50%, in most democracies there's stuff like "you need 2/3 of the votes to change the constitution" or similar, at which point "how much you lose by" also matters.
And the most important of all is the categorical imperative/universalization. "What if everyone acted like you did?"
If everyone didn't vote because "it doesn't accomplish anything" then the result is that it doesn't accomplish anything, you will definitely lose. But if everyone did vote even if it "doesn't accomplish anything", then suddenly you might win the vote because everyone voted.
Kamala Harris, who had Bill Clinton on her campaign trail doing hasbara.
She’s married to a Zionist! He was out there during her campaign constantly reassuring other zionists (donors) with public statements that his wife would defend Israel, while she remained mostly silent on the issue.
It makes sense if you assume that Gazans simply do not register as real flesh-and-blood human beings to them.
look sweaty, westerners seeing opinions they dont like is literally worse than starving gazans
heavy /S
There are people who say not only do you need to vote for the dems, it is still your fault if they lose if you were ever critical of them.
it's not enough to support the party you must also be unquestionable and never critical
Best part about that is that they act like all of our users are Americans. Like, you guys do realize that the Internet is a worldwide thing right? Right??? They are mad about > 700 Americans saying they wouldn't vote for Harris. Holy shit guys
Also, I wonder why a leftist instance with a more internationalist viewpoint would have more international leftists in it than instances almost entirely populated by Americans where every third post is inside Democratic party commentator drama or whatever.
Even if I didn't have a posting culture and ideaological preference for Hexbear, you couldn't fucking pay me to spend even more of my day having to listen to whatever the current US political media dog and pony show talking point is than I already do just by living in a US vassal state.
B-but Kamala lost Michigan by exactly 724
s! DAMN YOU JILL STEIN! 
I wish that were true. Democratic party needs to be thoroughly destroyed
We do have the most powerful posters.
The Democrats do more damage to themselves than I could ever hope to do. All I have to do is point as say "See what I am talking about, here?"
Anything but blaming the Dems for being pieces of shit.
It may blow their minds to find out that a lot of us arent even American and therefore dont vote in American elections
That makes it even more insidious because you're foreign agents doing an election interference.
Did we forget to sign you up for the mail-in ballot program? I'll be sure to correct that with the electoral fraud committee. /j
These people also blamed Palestinians for Trump being elected. They don't care
we're the new SomethingAwful
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