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One ethnostate as a treat (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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"Preaching to the mob" meme template based on SrGafo's comic. First panel: Person standing on a rock: "I'm in favor of a genocidal ethnostate"
Second panel: Reaction shot of a mob with an assortment pitchforks and other weapons looks really angry. Each figure is marked with the German flag emoji.
Third panel: Person standing on the rock: "For european jews" Fourth panel: The mob looks really happy.

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[–] -5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

People call Israel an ethnostate in a derogatory way, when Palestine is the same thing. It's a state for a certain ethnicity - Palestinians. And they too call for Palestinians to return to it. But when it's Palestine people call it national liberation.

I don't want to say the Israeli government aren't racist right-wing assholes that are committing genocidal war crimes. I simply think it's somewhat stupid to criticise Israel for something (ethnostate = bad) when Palestine is basically doing the same thing.
You get me?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 months ago

    I was criticising Germany and Israel. You're talking about what people supporting Palestine supposedly want. So that's already off-topic.

    Palestine is the same thing. It's a state for a certain ethnicity - Palestinians.

    That would be correct, if I was advocating for a palestinian state, or a two-state-solution. I'm in fact in favour of the no-state solution for Palestine. If there has to be a state, then it clearly should be multi-national one (like Switzerland, or Lebanon).

    Wanting Palestine to be free does not automatically mean that you want there to be a different state to brutalize the people.

    Also, palestinians were already at least multi-religious. There are palestinian muslims, jews and christians. Israel binds it's ethnic program to judaism.

    And they too call for Palestinians to return to it.

    Refugees have a right to have a historic wrong made right again. They mustn't be kept from returning if they want.

    But when it's Palestine people call it national liberation.

    You can (and should) also call for antinational liberation. Or even a global intifada (internationalist movemet). Both aren't nationalist.

    I simply think it's somewhat stupid to criticise Israel for something (ethnostate = bad) when Palestine is basically doing the same thing.

    What? Please tell me about the genocide Palestine is supposedly carrying out at the moment. You're embarrassing yourself with that "both sides bad" platitude.

    You get me?

    Yeah. Cringe take, as I was afraid it would turn out to be.

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