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[-] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

lay that groundwork for the next election

The fact that "next election" to you means the presidential election is very telling. There are more progressive candidates penciled on the midterm ballots (let alone the active primaries) than there have been in living memory. And that's not counting local progressive candidates that are already in office from this election cycle.

But to hear everyone talk, anything short of a leftist presidency is a failure in the same way that anything short of a spontaneous revolution isn't worth doing. A milquetoast neolib president shackled by a progressive Congress by far the best option in the realm of possibility.


This is what drives left infighting, a complete disconnect on what's desired and what's possible. Some limitations are just so obvious that I don't know how people ignore them.

  • All media is controlled by billionaire corporate interests who have a ton to lose from the left gaining power. The revolution will not be televised and your left political wave will not come through social media. This will not change and you don't have the wallet to fight it.
  • Related, there will never be a viable third party no matter how much wishcasting you project. FPTP firmly entrenched the two party system and it would take a herculean reform effort to uproot it. There's a reason that the Republican and Democratic platforms have shifted all over the map since the 1800s, you can't splinter and keep any power.
  • Following that, the road map for usurping the DNC has already been shown to us. Power is displaced from the bottom up and a presidency is the last thing captured. Unfortunately, as they act as party of controlled opposition, the fight to disrupt that will be harder than it ever was.
  • Finally, the floodgates have been opened to a fascist takeover of the USA. To a certain extent, there's no closing Pandora's box and expectations and plans need to be adjusted for the new world.

So look at those facts and ask simple questions. Can reform by electoralism be attempted in this environment? What is the best chance for harm reduction here? Do the old rules apply in the same way (eg. is not voting blue even an option now)? Can this regime even be removed from office by normal means? What battles will you pick?

If you've really thought through all of that and landed on complaining about Harris and Newsome then I don't know what to say. That is so far down the branch of things we can't change (media narrative control, DNC establishment power, nascent progressive bloc still solidifying) that it's not worth discussing.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean when talking about presidential candidates running for a presidential election, it does kinda make sense to use "next" even though there is technically another one before then, because the "true next" one doesn't involve presidential elections. It's called context. That doesn't mean that they're not voting at midterm elections, it just means that they understand that presidents aren't elected until presidential elections and we can disregard midterms when talking about presidential candidates.

It's like saying "I'll see you at the next baseball game" to your friend when leaving the stadium, and him understanding that you mean the next home game not flying to Chicago to see them play at Wrigley on Tuesday.

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Reread the OP. There was no mention of presidential elections anywhere, just "liberal candidate" generally in "elections". You made the same assumption, which just goes to show how the media landscape has conditioned us to think like that.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Well,

A) "Let's dissuade people from participating in radical politics" is only during presidential election season, when's the last time you saw an ad for midterms? The DNC barely participates themselves. Be real.

B) So? The comment you replied to chose to talk about the presidential election which is no less valid of an interpretation. Maybe they didn't want to dox themselves more locally than "US," you are the one who chose to reply to that comment specifically instead of making your own top level comment about midterms.

C) Almost everyone in this thread interpreted it to be directly about Kamala. It doesn't mention her by name, no, and yes, all the rest in the DNC are just as incompetent of candidates, but people get mad when you remind them of that and if you agree with me, we're the outliers here, as sad as that is for a supposed anarchist community. That said, it was likely OP's intent even without naming her (or it's an old meme about Biden or Hillary because tbh they KEEP doing it for presidential elections especially like they want to lose.)

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