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Despite China's rapid adoption of renewables, their fossil fuel usage is also still climbing, while it is declining in the US.
Both total and per capita
Fossil fuels also still account for a larger share of electricity generation in China compared to US.
Meaning that despite manufacturing 95% of the world's solar photovoltaic modules, having the largest hydro plants in the world (building even bigger ones) and being at the forefront of wind electricity generation and the spearhead of nuclear, it still grows its electricity usage faster than that. The alternative would be leaving people behind without electricity, keep in mind that China is in many aspects still a developing country.
I guess manufacturing 95% of photovoltaic modules is not enough to you.
As well as having 5 massive nuclear reactors currently under construction.
China is the world's factory. They produce the goods consumed by every other country on these charts.
The question becomes: given a country's usage of fossil fuels, what do they have to show for it? Western nations burn coal to run LLMs; China is burning coal to build eliminate poverty and produce 30% of the entire world's goods.
Also keep in mind, energy usage has a history. Its not fair to take a snapshot of 2026's energy splits and condemn China, given how western nations just spent the last 200 years destroying the planet.
Why are we pretending China doesn’t also run LLMs and datacentres?
The only reason they don’t have as much growth is import restrictions on Western GPUs.
With Alibabas new inhouse Zhenwu AI processors they are starting to be able to avoid that issue and production of new data centres will increase faster than the many they have already built or are underway.
Thank you for the info.